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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@kernel.org>, Andrew Honig <ahonig@google.com>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@redhat.com>,
	Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com>, Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: GET_RNG_SEED hypercall ABI? (Re: [PATCH v5 0/5] random,x86,kvm: Rework arch RNG seeds and get some from kvm)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:07:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53FD83B4.1030507@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53FD81F5.6030701@redhat.com>

On 08/27/2014 12:00 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 27/08/2014 01:58, Andy Lutomirski ha scritto:
>> hpa pointed out that the ABI that I chose (an MSR from the KVM range
>> and a KVM cpuid bit) is unnecessarily KVM-specific.  It would be nice
>> to allocate an MSR that everyone involved can agree on and, rather
>> than relying on a cpuid bit, just have the guest probe for the MSR.
>>
>> This leads to a few questions:
>>
>> 1. How do we allocate an MSR?  (For background, this would be an MSR
>> that either returns 64 bits of best-effort cryptographically secure
>> random data or fails with #GP.)
> 
> Ask Intel? :)

I'm going to poke around internally.  Intel might as a matter of policy
be reluctant to assign an MSR index specifically for software use, but
I'll try to find out.

	-hpa

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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@kernel.org>, Andrew Honig <ahonig@google.com>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@redhat.com>,
	Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: GET_RNG_SEED hypercall ABI? (Re: [PATCH v5 0/5] random,x86,kvm: Rework arch RNG seeds and get some from kvm)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:07:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53FD83B4.1030507@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53FD81F5.6030701@redhat.com>

On 08/27/2014 12:00 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 27/08/2014 01:58, Andy Lutomirski ha scritto:
>> hpa pointed out that the ABI that I chose (an MSR from the KVM range
>> and a KVM cpuid bit) is unnecessarily KVM-specific.  It would be nice
>> to allocate an MSR that everyone involved can agree on and, rather
>> than relying on a cpuid bit, just have the guest probe for the MSR.
>>
>> This leads to a few questions:
>>
>> 1. How do we allocate an MSR?  (For background, this would be an MSR
>> that either returns 64 bits of best-effort cryptographically secure
>> random data or fails with #GP.)
> 
> Ask Intel? :)

I'm going to poke around internally.  Intel might as a matter of policy
be reluctant to assign an MSR index specifically for software use, but
I'll try to find out.

	-hpa


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-27  7:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-26 23:58 GET_RNG_SEED hypercall ABI? (Re: [PATCH v5 0/5] random,x86,kvm: Rework arch RNG seeds and get some from kvm) Andy Lutomirski
2014-08-26 23:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-08-27  7:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-08-27  7:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-08-27  7:07   ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-08-27  7:07     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-08-28 14:17 ` Gleb Natapov
2014-08-28 16:22   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-08-28 16:22     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-08-28 19:46     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-08-28 19:46       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-08-29  0:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-08-29  0:13         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-08-29  6:36         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-08-29  6:36           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-08-28 14:17 ` Gleb Natapov

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