* Resources to teach from C to Kernel Development?
@ 2014-08-28 19:49 Ed Holmes
2014-09-02 1:03 ` Raphael Philipe
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From: Ed Holmes @ 2014-08-28 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: kernelnewbies
Can you recommend me any books or online resources to teach a C programmer Kernel development? I can program in C but I don't really know where to go from there. I've tried the Eucalyptus challenge but it just suggests things to try. No actual tutorial.
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2014-08-28 19:49 Resources to teach from C to Kernel Development? Ed Holmes
@ 2014-09-02 1:03 ` Raphael Philipe
2014-09-02 15:37 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
2014-09-02 18:24 ` John de la Garza
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From: Raphael Philipe @ 2014-09-02 1:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: kernelnewbies
Do you mean Eudyptula Challenge?
You should definitely take a look at this book:
http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ . There is a printed version that you can
buy too. It is worth.
If you want see the examples of the book that run in a newer Kernel
version, look at this: https://github.com/duxing2007/ldd3-examples-3.x
Another great resource is the Linux Kernel Source code. Dig into the
code from drivers that you known and use. Read the documents in the
Documentation folder of the Linux Source Code:
http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Documentation/
Regards,
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Ed Holmes <ed.holmes@icloud.com> wrote:
> Can you recommend me any books or online resources to teach a C programmer Kernel development? I can program in C but I don't really know where to go from there. I've tried the Eucalyptus challenge but it just suggests things to try. No actual tutorial.
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* Resources to teach from C to Kernel Development?
2014-08-28 19:49 Resources to teach from C to Kernel Development? Ed Holmes
2014-09-02 1:03 ` Raphael Philipe
@ 2014-09-02 15:37 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
2014-09-02 18:22 ` nick
2014-09-02 18:24 ` John de la Garza
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu @ 2014-09-02 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: kernelnewbies
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 20:49:01 +0100, Ed Holmes said:
> Can you recommend me any books or online resources to teach a C programmer
> Kernel development? I can program in C but I don't really know where to go from
> there. I've tried the Eucalyptus challenge but it just suggests things to try.
> No actual tutorial.
Kernel development is a field that isn't very friendly to people who need
tutorials, sorry. There's a few things like LDD3 and the Eudyptula stuff, but
in general you really need to be the sort of programmer who can figure this
stuff out for themselves, because APIs are *constantly* being changed, updated,
and added/removed. LDD3 is pretty much as good as it gets, and even that gets
outdated because we're moving along at about a million lines a release. So
there's a good amount of "sink or swim" involved here.
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* Resources to teach from C to Kernel Development?
2014-09-02 15:37 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
@ 2014-09-02 18:22 ` nick
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From: nick @ 2014-09-02 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: kernelnewbies
On 14-09-02 11:37 AM, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 20:49:01 +0100, Ed Holmes said:
>
>> Can you recommend me any books or online resources to teach a C programmer
>> Kernel development? I can program in C but I don't really know where to go from
>> there. I've tried the Eucalyptus challenge but it just suggests things to try.
>> No actual tutorial.
>
> Kernel development is a field that isn't very friendly to people who need
> tutorials, sorry. There's a few things like LDD3 and the Eudyptula stuff, but
> in general you really need to be the sort of programmer who can figure this
> stuff out for themselves, because APIs are *constantly* being changed, updated,
> and added/removed. LDD3 is pretty much as good as it gets, and even that gets
> outdated because we're moving along at about a million lines a release. So
> there's a good amount of "sink or swim" involved here.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
>
I agree a lot with Valdis and after getting banned from the list to not doing my own
work, I can state that doing your own work is very important and even more so in some-
thing as complex as the Linux kernel is. Also try and find an area you are interested
in and focus on that. As for me I am learning btrfs, usb and the networking stack.
Mostly btrfs through :).
Nick
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* Resources to teach from C to Kernel Development?
2014-08-28 19:49 Resources to teach from C to Kernel Development? Ed Holmes
2014-09-02 1:03 ` Raphael Philipe
2014-09-02 15:37 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
@ 2014-09-02 18:24 ` John de la Garza
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From: John de la Garza @ 2014-09-02 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: kernelnewbies
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 08:49:01PM +0100, Ed Holmes wrote:
> Can you recommend me any books or online resources to teach a C programmer Kernel development? I can program in C but I don't really know where to go from there. I've tried the Eucalyptus challenge but it just suggests things to try. No actual tutorial.
These helped me get started:
http://www.jamesmolloy.co.uk/tutorial_html/ or http://gnudd.com/wd/thos.pdf
These are tiny kernels that you can fully understand.
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