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From: Tanya Brokhman <tlinder@codeaurora.org>
To: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>, dedeking1@gmail.com
Cc: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH 1/5] mtd: ubi: Read disturb infrastructure
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 16:42:47 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <542D5657.3060208@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <542D5203.2080601@nod.at>

On 10/2/2014 4:24 PM, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Am 02.10.2014 14:50, schrieb Tanya Brokhman:
>>> Consider the case where you have a board with a fastmap enabled bootloader and a Linux OS.
>>> The bootloader does a fastmap attach and boots the kernel from UBI and the kernel it self has the rootfs
>>> on UBI too. If you install a new kernel with your changes applied it will write the fastmap in a different
>>> format and the bootloader will fail badly. In worst case the board bricks, in best case the bootloader can fall back
>>> to scanning mode but it will be slow and the customer unhappy.
>>>
>>
>> Ok, I understand the problem now. I wanted to discuss a possible solution before implementing it:
>> We have a "fastmap version" in fm_sb. At the moment UBI_FM_FMT_VERSION = 1 and any other is not supported. We can use that; Add another fm version (UBI_FM_FMT_VERSION_RD = 2) and
>> then decide according to it. Meaning, if during attach process we find fm superblock we check it's version, if it's != UBI_FM_FMT_VERSION_RD, we fall back to full scan. The next
>> fastmap will be written with the new layout (and new version number) so second boot will attach from fastmap without any issues.
>
> Yes, if we change the fastmap on-disk layout we need to change UBI_FM_FMT_VERSION.
> Then other fastmap implementations will notice the change and can hopefully recover.
> Implementations which do not evaluate UBI_FM_FMT_VERSION deserve breaking. ;-)

good. will work on the fix and upload a new set when ready&tested.

>
> That said, I'll not block a layout change but we have to be sure that it is *really* needed.

In order to support read-disturb, I think its really needed. There is no 
other way to save read counter per PEB but in fastmap.

> I'm currently heavily working on fastmap and my local queue with fastmap fixes keeps growing.
> If I find a horror bug which needs a fastmap layout change I want to change the layout only once,
> not twice.
>

How do you test all of your fastmap fixes? Some of them are not easy to 
reproduce (the pq saving for example). Besides heavy stability testing, 
I was testing my changes manually by a lot of dbg prints in the code and 
analyzing the logs manually. Not the optimal way....

> Thanks,
> //richard
>
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Thanks,
Tanya Brokhman
-- 
Employee of Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc.
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-02 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-28  6:37 [RFC/PATCH 1/5] mtd: ubi: Read disturb infrastructure Tanya Brokhman
2014-09-28  6:37 ` Tanya Brokhman
2014-09-28  6:37 ` Tanya Brokhman
2014-09-28  8:18 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-09-28  8:18   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-09-28  8:48   ` Tanya Brokhman
2014-09-28  8:54     ` Richard Weinberger
2014-09-28 10:46       ` Tanya Brokhman
2014-09-28 10:54         ` Richard Weinberger
2014-10-02 12:50           ` Tanya Brokhman
2014-10-02 13:24             ` Richard Weinberger
2014-10-02 13:42               ` Tanya Brokhman [this message]
2014-10-02 14:05                 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-10-03 15:38                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-10-03 15:38                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-10-07 13:55                 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-10-02 13:36             ` Richard Weinberger
2014-10-02 14:11               ` Tanya Brokhman
2014-09-28 12:11 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-09-28 12:11   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-09-28 14:54   ` Tanya Brokhman
2014-09-28 18:13 ` Jeremiah Mahler
2014-09-29  4:46   ` Tanya Brokhman
2014-09-29  6:49     ` Jeremiah Mahler

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