From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas.lengyel@zentific.com>,
Razvan Cojocaru <rcojocaru@bitdefender.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: Blocking CR and MSR writes via mem_access?
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 13:37:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <542E98A1.5070706@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAErYnsisDLsi6ZZateJNEQSrF7x=vp-5FXAo24rgg43-TKKtBw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 03/10/14 13:32, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Razvan Cojocaru
> <rcojocaru@bitdefender.com <mailto:rcojocaru@bitdefender.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Currently hvm_memory_event_cr3() and the other hvm_memory_event_*()
> functions in hvm.c can pause the VCPU and send a mem_event with
> the new
> value of the respective register, but especially in the case of CR
> events (as opposed to MSR events), this is done _after_ the value
> is set
> (please see hvm_set_cr3() in hvm.c).
>
> It would be interesting from a memory introspection application's
> point
> of view to be able to receive a mem_event _before_ the value is
> set, and
> important to be able to veto the change.
>
> A few questions:
>
> 1. Would it be acceptable to move the CR3 event sending code so that a
> mem_access client would receive the event _before_ the write takes
> place? Is this likely to break other mem_event clients that might rely
> on the event being received _after_ the value has been set?
>
>
> Yes, it would break existing applications.
>
>
> 2. I see that mem_event responses from all these cases (EPT
> violations,
> CR, MSR) are handled in p2m.c's p2m_mem_access_resume() (seems to be
> confirmed by testing). Is this correct?
>
> 3. What would be the sanest, most elegant way to modify Xen so that
> after a mem_event reply is being received for one of these cases (CR,
> MSR), the write will then be rejected? I'm asking because, as always,
> ideally this would also benefit other Xen users and an elegant
> patch is
> always more likely to find its way into mainline than a quick hack.
>
>
> You can already block such writes with the existing post-write event
> delivery. If you are continuously watching for writes, you know what
> the previous value was (for CR events it is actually delivered to you
> by Xen as well as per my recent patch). If you don't like a particular
> new value that was set, just reset it to the value you had / want.
>
> Tamas
That doesn't work if you join an event listener between the previous MSR
write and one you wish to veto.
Having a "pre-write" event hook which the listener can register for
(instead of the post-write hook) sounds like a plausible plan, where the
result of the event can be Yes/No/"Do this in stead".
~Andrew
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Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-02 10:49 Blocking CR and MSR writes via mem_access? Razvan Cojocaru
2014-10-02 11:39 ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-02 11:46 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-10-02 11:51 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-10-02 11:54 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-10-02 11:51 ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-02 12:04 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-10-03 12:32 ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-10-03 12:37 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2014-10-03 13:00 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-10-03 16:22 ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-10-03 18:13 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-10-06 14:25 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-10-07 8:59 ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-10-07 10:21 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-10-07 10:48 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-10-07 12:30 ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-10-07 12:40 ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-07 12:46 ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-10-07 12:49 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-10-07 12:55 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-10-07 12:58 ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-10-07 13:06 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-10-07 12:48 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-10-27 16:10 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-10-03 12:42 ` Razvan Cojocaru
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