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From: Sagi Grimberg <sagig-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Cc: linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	roland-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	eli-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	oren-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] Indirect Fast Memory registration support
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 14:18:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <543BB4F4.8090203@dev.mellanox.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <543B91E2.70206-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>

On 10/13/2014 11:48 AM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 10/12/14 21:43, Or Gerlitz wrote:
>> Sean, Bart - any comment on the API before Sagi sits down to code the
>> iSER changes?
>
> Hello Or,

Hey Bart,

>
> Will this API ever be supported by other Mellanox RDMA drivers than
> mlx5, e.g. mlx4 ?

Well, unfortunately mlx4 micro-architecture does not support
indirect memory registration. IMHO, simulating it in SW/FW is
not feasible.

> Will this API ever be supported by a Mellanox HCA that
> supports RoCE ?

Yes, mlx5 will support RoCE in the future. Moreover AFAIK future
Mellanox HCAs will keep supporting this technology as it is useful
for other use-cases as well.

> Additionally, do you perhaps know whether any other RDMA
> vendors have plans to implement this API for their RDMA HCA's ?

I can't comment on other vendors plans...
Maybe once this feature is included they will consider it... ;)

> Drivers like the iSER and SRP initiator and target drivers have been implemented
> on top of the RDMA API and support all hardware that implements the RDMA
> API. Since this patch series adds support for the indirect fast memory
> registration API for mlx5 only this means that adding support for this
> API in block storage drivers also means adding a fall-back path for RDMA
> drivers that do not have support for this API. That will make these
> block storage drivers harder to maintain, which is something I would
> like to avoid.

I agree with you on that,

But state-of-the-art devices can introduce new functionality which
sometimes isn't supported in older/other devices. So while keeping
a fall-back logic is a pain, we should strive to adopt new features.

As you know, the problem this feature is solving is even more painful
in iSER than in SRP (only a single rkey per-cmd is allowed) and while
the BB memcopy work-around will not be removed from the code completely,
at least it can hide under some abstraction and be avoided when this
feature is supported.

Cheers,
Sagi.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-13 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-07 14:47 [PATCH RFC 0/2] Indirect Fast Memory registration support Sagi Grimberg
     [not found] ` <1412693281-6161-1-git-send-email-sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-07 14:48   ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] IB/core: Introduce Fast Indirect Memory Registration verbs API Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]     ` <1412693281-6161-2-git-send-email-sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-07 18:12       ` Steve Wise
     [not found]         ` <54342D0C.6050103-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-08  5:48           ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]             ` <5434D037.4040208-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-08 13:54               ` Steve Wise
2014-10-13  7:57                 ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                   ` <543B85F7.1060000-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-13 14:41                     ` Steve Wise
2014-10-14  5:40       ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]         ` <543CB76B.7020208-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-19 19:01           ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]             ` <54440A7E.200-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-20 14:54               ` Steve Wise
2014-10-07 14:48   ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] IB/mlx5: Implement Fast Indirect Memory Registration Feature Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]     ` <1412693281-6161-3-git-send-email-sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-12 19:39       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]         ` <543AD8DE.5060404-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-13  8:32           ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]             ` <543B8E09.6090606-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-13 12:57               ` Or Gerlitz
2014-10-13 13:00               ` Or Gerlitz
2014-10-21 13:12               ` Eli Cohen
2014-10-14  5:41       ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]         ` <543CB79B.6050400-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-14 10:50           ` Sagi Grimberg
2014-10-19 19:34           ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]             ` <5444122C.6070804-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-20  7:46               ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                 ` <5444BDDC.1060507-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-21  9:32                   ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                     ` <54462842.8080701-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-21 10:54                       ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                         ` <54463B4A.1070308-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-21 10:59                           ` Sagi Grimberg
2014-10-21 14:20               ` Eli Cohen
2014-10-21 14:30                 ` Sagi Grimberg
2014-10-08 11:06   ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] Indirect Fast Memory registration support Devesh Sharma
     [not found]     ` <EE7902D3F51F404C82415C4803930ACD40C4114B-DWYeeINJQrxExQ8dmkPuX0M9+F4ksjoh@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-13  8:01       ` Sagi Grimberg
2014-10-12 19:43   ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]     ` <543AD9CD.80803-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-13  8:48       ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]         ` <543B91E2.70206-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-13 11:18           ` Sagi Grimberg [this message]
     [not found]             ` <543BB4F4.8090203-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-13 14:51               ` Steve Wise

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