From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] dt-bindings: simplefb: Specify node location and handoff related properties
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 12:29:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5464A431.2050706@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACxGe6uPKcZ4XqdiPQtia-0D+BnqjDE3eW-oDCR+byUrVtNpSg@mail.gmail.com>
Hi,
On 11/13/2014 01:03 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> Since simplefb nodes do not relate directly to hw typically they have been
>>> placed in the root of the devicetree. As the represent runtime information
>>> having them as sub-nodes of /chosen is more logical, specify this.
>>>
>>> Also specify when to set the chosen stdout-path property to a simplefb node.
>>>
>>> For reliable handover to a hardware specific driver, that driver needs to
>>> know which simplefb to unregister when taking over, specify how the hw driver
>>> can find the matching simplefb node.
>>>
>>> Last add some advice on how to fill and use simplefb nodes from a firmware
>>> pov.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
>>> Acked-by: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
>>> --
>>> Changes in v2:
>>> -Add stdout-path to the example code
>>> ---
>>> .../bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt | 38 +++++++++++++++++++++-
>>> 1 file changed, 37 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt
>>> index 8f35718..8b7ecf6 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt
>>> @@ -4,6 +4,26 @@ A simple frame-buffer describes a frame-buffer setup by firmware or
>>> the bootloader, with the assumption that the display hardware has already
>>> been set up to scan out from the memory pointed to by the reg property.
>>>
>>> +Since simplefb nodes represent runtime information they must be sub-nodes of
>>> +the chosen node (*). The primary display node must be named framebuffer0,
>>> +additional nodes must be called framebuffer1, etc.
>>
>> Thinking more about our conversation yesterday, the preferred name
>> should still be framebuffer@<address>. There is no reason to break
>> with established convention, and as mentioned in my reply on patch #2,
>> using the name is not the preferred way to identify a device node. So,
>> my recommendation is to prefer the name "framebuffer@<addr>", but if
>> it is inconvenient because the address isn't known, then
>> "framebuffer#" is acceptable. Then use /aliases for actual enumeration
>> which has the advantage of also working for framebuffers that aren't
>> in /chosen.
>
> Some more thoughts about aliases.
>
> There is a natural tension between enumerate framebuffers or
> enumerating displays. There is precedence for displays to be named
> 'display...' and to use /aliases/display* to enumerate them. What do
> we do for framebuffers? Does it make sense to have a separate
> /aliases/framebuffer* enumeration, or would it be better to have a
> single 'display' namespace so that the same name is used right
> through?
>
> Right now I'm leaning towards using /aliases/display* for everything,
> and making simplefb understand that /aliases/display# could either
> point directly to the framebuffer when there is not node for the
> hardware, or point to the display node. This would make it easy to
> have consistent names for display. For example, with the kexec
> scenario, if /aliases/display0 points at the display node then the
> alias won't need to be changed between first boot when firmware sets
> up a framebuffer, and kexec boot after the kernel has torn down the
> original framebuffer. If /aliases/display0 points to the framebuffer
> node directly, then the linkage from /aliases/display0 to the HW
> display node will be lost when the framebuffer gets torn down.
>
> Doing it this way does make two assumptions though. It assumes that
> each display will have its own node somewhere so that no two
> framebuffers will point to the same node. Second, it assumes that we
> have a mechanism to handoff a display name (/dev/fb*)? from simplefb
> to another device. I don't know enough about the fbdev subsystem to
> know whether or not this will be a problem. Or if there are any
> namespace conflicts between fbdev and drm.
>
> Implementation would be simple to do. If the simple framebuffer node
> has a 'display' property, then it will call of_alias_get_id() on the
> target of that phandle. Otherwise it will call of_alias_get_id() on
> itself.
>
> Thoughts?
Re-using display# aliases, and specifying that if the simplefb node has
a display property, that then the id of the node the display property
points to should be used, and otherwise the id of the simplefb node itself
sounds like a good idea.
I'll go work on a v3 and put this in (and update the example for this
as well).
Regards,
Hans
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From: hdegoede@redhat.com (Hans de Goede)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 1/4] dt-bindings: simplefb: Specify node location and handoff related properties
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 13:29:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5464A431.2050706@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACxGe6uPKcZ4XqdiPQtia-0D+BnqjDE3eW-oDCR+byUrVtNpSg@mail.gmail.com>
Hi,
On 11/13/2014 01:03 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> Since simplefb nodes do not relate directly to hw typically they have been
>>> placed in the root of the devicetree. As the represent runtime information
>>> having them as sub-nodes of /chosen is more logical, specify this.
>>>
>>> Also specify when to set the chosen stdout-path property to a simplefb node.
>>>
>>> For reliable handover to a hardware specific driver, that driver needs to
>>> know which simplefb to unregister when taking over, specify how the hw driver
>>> can find the matching simplefb node.
>>>
>>> Last add some advice on how to fill and use simplefb nodes from a firmware
>>> pov.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
>>> Acked-by: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
>>> --
>>> Changes in v2:
>>> -Add stdout-path to the example code
>>> ---
>>> .../bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt | 38 +++++++++++++++++++++-
>>> 1 file changed, 37 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt
>>> index 8f35718..8b7ecf6 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt
>>> @@ -4,6 +4,26 @@ A simple frame-buffer describes a frame-buffer setup by firmware or
>>> the bootloader, with the assumption that the display hardware has already
>>> been set up to scan out from the memory pointed to by the reg property.
>>>
>>> +Since simplefb nodes represent runtime information they must be sub-nodes of
>>> +the chosen node (*). The primary display node must be named framebuffer0,
>>> +additional nodes must be called framebuffer1, etc.
>>
>> Thinking more about our conversation yesterday, the preferred name
>> should still be framebuffer@<address>. There is no reason to break
>> with established convention, and as mentioned in my reply on patch #2,
>> using the name is not the preferred way to identify a device node. So,
>> my recommendation is to prefer the name "framebuffer@<addr>", but if
>> it is inconvenient because the address isn't known, then
>> "framebuffer#" is acceptable. Then use /aliases for actual enumeration
>> which has the advantage of also working for framebuffers that aren't
>> in /chosen.
>
> Some more thoughts about aliases.
>
> There is a natural tension between enumerate framebuffers or
> enumerating displays. There is precedence for displays to be named
> 'display...' and to use /aliases/display* to enumerate them. What do
> we do for framebuffers? Does it make sense to have a separate
> /aliases/framebuffer* enumeration, or would it be better to have a
> single 'display' namespace so that the same name is used right
> through?
>
> Right now I'm leaning towards using /aliases/display* for everything,
> and making simplefb understand that /aliases/display# could either
> point directly to the framebuffer when there is not node for the
> hardware, or point to the display node. This would make it easy to
> have consistent names for display. For example, with the kexec
> scenario, if /aliases/display0 points at the display node then the
> alias won't need to be changed between first boot when firmware sets
> up a framebuffer, and kexec boot after the kernel has torn down the
> original framebuffer. If /aliases/display0 points to the framebuffer
> node directly, then the linkage from /aliases/display0 to the HW
> display node will be lost when the framebuffer gets torn down.
>
> Doing it this way does make two assumptions though. It assumes that
> each display will have its own node somewhere so that no two
> framebuffers will point to the same node. Second, it assumes that we
> have a mechanism to handoff a display name (/dev/fb*)? from simplefb
> to another device. I don't know enough about the fbdev subsystem to
> know whether or not this will be a problem. Or if there are any
> namespace conflicts between fbdev and drm.
>
> Implementation would be simple to do. If the simple framebuffer node
> has a 'display' property, then it will call of_alias_get_id() on the
> target of that phandle. Otherwise it will call of_alias_get_id() on
> itself.
>
> Thoughts?
Re-using display# aliases, and specifying that if the simplefb node has
a display property, that then the id of the node the display property
points to should be used, and otherwise the id of the simplefb node itself
sounds like a good idea.
I'll go work on a v3 and put this in (and update the example for this
as well).
Regards,
Hans
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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>,
Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard
<plagnioj-sclMFOaUSTBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Luc Verhaegen <libv-AgBVmzD5pcezQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
Maxime Ripard
<maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
David Herrmann
<dh.herrmann-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven
<geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-fbdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<linux-fbdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org"
<linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
devicetree <devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-sunxi <linux-sunxi-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] dt-bindings: simplefb: Specify node location and handoff related properties
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 13:29:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5464A431.2050706@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACxGe6uPKcZ4XqdiPQtia-0D+BnqjDE3eW-oDCR+byUrVtNpSg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
Hi,
On 11/13/2014 01:03 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Grant Likely <grant.likely-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> Since simplefb nodes do not relate directly to hw typically they have been
>>> placed in the root of the devicetree. As the represent runtime information
>>> having them as sub-nodes of /chosen is more logical, specify this.
>>>
>>> Also specify when to set the chosen stdout-path property to a simplefb node.
>>>
>>> For reliable handover to a hardware specific driver, that driver needs to
>>> know which simplefb to unregister when taking over, specify how the hw driver
>>> can find the matching simplefb node.
>>>
>>> Last add some advice on how to fill and use simplefb nodes from a firmware
>>> pov.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>> Acked-by: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
>>> --
>>> Changes in v2:
>>> -Add stdout-path to the example code
>>> ---
>>> .../bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt | 38 +++++++++++++++++++++-
>>> 1 file changed, 37 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt
>>> index 8f35718..8b7ecf6 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/simple-framebuffer.txt
>>> @@ -4,6 +4,26 @@ A simple frame-buffer describes a frame-buffer setup by firmware or
>>> the bootloader, with the assumption that the display hardware has already
>>> been set up to scan out from the memory pointed to by the reg property.
>>>
>>> +Since simplefb nodes represent runtime information they must be sub-nodes of
>>> +the chosen node (*). The primary display node must be named framebuffer0,
>>> +additional nodes must be called framebuffer1, etc.
>>
>> Thinking more about our conversation yesterday, the preferred name
>> should still be framebuffer@<address>. There is no reason to break
>> with established convention, and as mentioned in my reply on patch #2,
>> using the name is not the preferred way to identify a device node. So,
>> my recommendation is to prefer the name "framebuffer@<addr>", but if
>> it is inconvenient because the address isn't known, then
>> "framebuffer#" is acceptable. Then use /aliases for actual enumeration
>> which has the advantage of also working for framebuffers that aren't
>> in /chosen.
>
> Some more thoughts about aliases.
>
> There is a natural tension between enumerate framebuffers or
> enumerating displays. There is precedence for displays to be named
> 'display...' and to use /aliases/display* to enumerate them. What do
> we do for framebuffers? Does it make sense to have a separate
> /aliases/framebuffer* enumeration, or would it be better to have a
> single 'display' namespace so that the same name is used right
> through?
>
> Right now I'm leaning towards using /aliases/display* for everything,
> and making simplefb understand that /aliases/display# could either
> point directly to the framebuffer when there is not node for the
> hardware, or point to the display node. This would make it easy to
> have consistent names for display. For example, with the kexec
> scenario, if /aliases/display0 points at the display node then the
> alias won't need to be changed between first boot when firmware sets
> up a framebuffer, and kexec boot after the kernel has torn down the
> original framebuffer. If /aliases/display0 points to the framebuffer
> node directly, then the linkage from /aliases/display0 to the HW
> display node will be lost when the framebuffer gets torn down.
>
> Doing it this way does make two assumptions though. It assumes that
> each display will have its own node somewhere so that no two
> framebuffers will point to the same node. Second, it assumes that we
> have a mechanism to handoff a display name (/dev/fb*)? from simplefb
> to another device. I don't know enough about the fbdev subsystem to
> know whether or not this will be a problem. Or if there are any
> namespace conflicts between fbdev and drm.
>
> Implementation would be simple to do. If the simple framebuffer node
> has a 'display' property, then it will call of_alias_get_id() on the
> target of that phandle. Otherwise it will call of_alias_get_id() on
> itself.
>
> Thoughts?
Re-using display# aliases, and specifying that if the simplefb node has
a display property, that then the id of the node the display property
points to should be used, and otherwise the id of the simplefb node itself
sounds like a good idea.
I'll go work on a v3 and put this in (and update the example for this
as well).
Regards,
Hans
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2014-11-13 8:50 [PATCH v2 1/4] dt-bindings: simplefb: Specify node location and handoff related properties Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 8:50 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 8:50 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 8:50 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] simplefb: Add support for enumerating simplefb dt nodes in /chosen Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 8:50 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 8:50 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 10:27 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-13 10:27 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-13 10:27 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-13 8:50 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] simplefb: Change simplefb_init from module_init to fs_initcall Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 8:50 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 8:50 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 8:50 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] fbcon: Change fbcon_init " Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 8:50 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 8:50 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 10:45 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] dt-bindings: simplefb: Specify node location and handoff related properties Maxime Ripard
2014-11-13 10:45 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-11-13 10:45 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-11-13 11:02 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-13 11:02 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-13 11:02 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-13 12:03 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-13 12:03 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-13 12:03 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-13 12:29 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2014-11-13 12:29 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 12:29 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 12:14 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 12:14 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 12:14 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 12:36 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-13 12:36 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-13 12:36 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-13 12:37 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-13 12:37 ` Hans de Goede
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