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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] video: omapdss: Add opa362 driver
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:41:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5464DF26.2010707@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9FD016B8-4EA2-4A0D-B790-6494AB449B31@goldelico.com>

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On 13/11/14 18:25, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Am 13.11.2014 um 12:51 schrieb Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>:
> 
>> On 13/11/14 00:10, Marek Belisko wrote:
>>> opa362 is amplifier for video and can be connected to the tvout pads
>>> of the OMAP3. It has one gpio control for enable/disable of the output
>>> (high impedance).
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: H. Nikolaus Schaller <hns@goldelico.com>
>>> ---
>>> drivers/video/fbdev/omap2/displays-new/Kconfig     |   6 +
>>> drivers/video/fbdev/omap2/displays-new/Makefile    |   1 +
>>> .../fbdev/omap2/displays-new/amplifier-opa362.c    | 343 +++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> I think it would be better to rename this to encoder-opa362.c. It's not
> 
> When developing this driver we did simply rename the encoder-tfp410 file,
> but thent hough that it does not fit into the „encoder“ category, because we
> would expect something digital or digital to analog „encoding“ which it does not.

That is true, but we already have other "encoders" like
encoder-tpd12s015.c, which also do not encode. "encoder" in this context
means something that takes a video input, and has a video output. In
contrast to a panel or a connector.

>>> +
>>> +	in->ops.atv->set_timings(in, &ddata->timings);
>>> +	/* fixme: should we receive the invert from our consumer, i.e. the connector? */
>>> +	in->ops.atv->invert_vid_out_polarity(in, true);
>>
>> Well this does seem to be broken. I don't know what the answer to the
>> question above is, but the code doesn't work properly.
>>
>> In the opa362_invert_vid_out_polarity function below, you get the invert
>> boolean from the connector. This you pass to the OMAP venc. However,
>> above you always override that value in venc with true.
>>
>> So, either the invert_vid_out_polarity value has to be always true or
>> false, because _OPA362_ requires it to be true or false, OR you need use
>> the value from the connector.
>>
>> Seeing the comment in opa362_invert_vid_out_polarity, my guess is the
>> latter, and the call above should be removed.
> 
> Yes, you are right - this is not systematic.
> 
> But the problem is that we can’t ask the connector here what it wants
> to see. It might (or might not) call our opa362_invert_vid_out_polarity() later
> which we can then forward to overwrite the inital state of this opa362_enable().

You don't need to ask. The connector calls invert_vid_out_polarity
before enabling the output. You can just pass it forward inverted, as
you already do in this driver. If it doesn't, it's either a bug or you
can just rely on the value that is already programmed to venc.

>> We are going to support only DT boot at some point. Thus I think the
>> whole platform data code should be left out.
> 
> Is there already a decision? I think it should not be done before. And it
> does not harm to still have it.

It's just a matter of time. I don't accept any new boards using platform
data for display, or new display drivers using platform data, because I
don't want to spend my time converting them later. And as this is a new
driver, no existing board can be using the opa362 platform_data. So we
can support DT only.

 Tomi



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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
To: "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Marek Belisko <marek-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>,
	robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org,
	mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org,
	ijc+devicetree-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org,
	galak-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org,
	bcousson-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org,
	linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org,
	plagnioj-sclMFOaUSTBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	grant.likely-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-omap-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fbdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	gta04-owner-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] video: omapdss: Add opa362 driver
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:41:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5464DF26.2010707@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9FD016B8-4EA2-4A0D-B790-6494AB449B31-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>

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On 13/11/14 18:25, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Am 13.11.2014 um 12:51 schrieb Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>:
> 
>> On 13/11/14 00:10, Marek Belisko wrote:
>>> opa362 is amplifier for video and can be connected to the tvout pads
>>> of the OMAP3. It has one gpio control for enable/disable of the output
>>> (high impedance).
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: H. Nikolaus Schaller <hns-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
>>> ---
>>> drivers/video/fbdev/omap2/displays-new/Kconfig     |   6 +
>>> drivers/video/fbdev/omap2/displays-new/Makefile    |   1 +
>>> .../fbdev/omap2/displays-new/amplifier-opa362.c    | 343 +++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> I think it would be better to rename this to encoder-opa362.c. It's not
> 
> When developing this driver we did simply rename the encoder-tfp410 file,
> but thent hough that it does not fit into the „encoder“ category, because we
> would expect something digital or digital to analog „encoding“ which it does not.

That is true, but we already have other "encoders" like
encoder-tpd12s015.c, which also do not encode. "encoder" in this context
means something that takes a video input, and has a video output. In
contrast to a panel or a connector.

>>> +
>>> +	in->ops.atv->set_timings(in, &ddata->timings);
>>> +	/* fixme: should we receive the invert from our consumer, i.e. the connector? */
>>> +	in->ops.atv->invert_vid_out_polarity(in, true);
>>
>> Well this does seem to be broken. I don't know what the answer to the
>> question above is, but the code doesn't work properly.
>>
>> In the opa362_invert_vid_out_polarity function below, you get the invert
>> boolean from the connector. This you pass to the OMAP venc. However,
>> above you always override that value in venc with true.
>>
>> So, either the invert_vid_out_polarity value has to be always true or
>> false, because _OPA362_ requires it to be true or false, OR you need use
>> the value from the connector.
>>
>> Seeing the comment in opa362_invert_vid_out_polarity, my guess is the
>> latter, and the call above should be removed.
> 
> Yes, you are right - this is not systematic.
> 
> But the problem is that we can’t ask the connector here what it wants
> to see. It might (or might not) call our opa362_invert_vid_out_polarity() later
> which we can then forward to overwrite the inital state of this opa362_enable().

You don't need to ask. The connector calls invert_vid_out_polarity
before enabling the output. You can just pass it forward inverted, as
you already do in this driver. If it doesn't, it's either a bug or you
can just rely on the value that is already programmed to venc.

>> We are going to support only DT boot at some point. Thus I think the
>> whole platform data code should be left out.
> 
> Is there already a decision? I think it should not be done before. And it
> does not harm to still have it.

It's just a matter of time. I don't accept any new boards using platform
data for display, or new display drivers using platform data, because I
don't want to spend my time converting them later. And as this is a new
driver, no existing board can be using the opa362 platform_data. So we
can support DT only.

 Tomi



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From: tomi.valkeinen@ti.com (Tomi Valkeinen)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 1/5] video: omapdss: Add opa362 driver
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:41:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5464DF26.2010707@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9FD016B8-4EA2-4A0D-B790-6494AB449B31@goldelico.com>

On 13/11/14 18:25, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Am 13.11.2014 um 12:51 schrieb Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>:
> 
>> On 13/11/14 00:10, Marek Belisko wrote:
>>> opa362 is amplifier for video and can be connected to the tvout pads
>>> of the OMAP3. It has one gpio control for enable/disable of the output
>>> (high impedance).
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: H. Nikolaus Schaller <hns@goldelico.com>
>>> ---
>>> drivers/video/fbdev/omap2/displays-new/Kconfig     |   6 +
>>> drivers/video/fbdev/omap2/displays-new/Makefile    |   1 +
>>> .../fbdev/omap2/displays-new/amplifier-opa362.c    | 343 +++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> I think it would be better to rename this to encoder-opa362.c. It's not
> 
> When developing this driver we did simply rename the encoder-tfp410 file,
> but thent hough that it does not fit into the ?encoder? category, because we
> would expect something digital or digital to analog ?encoding? which it does not.

That is true, but we already have other "encoders" like
encoder-tpd12s015.c, which also do not encode. "encoder" in this context
means something that takes a video input, and has a video output. In
contrast to a panel or a connector.

>>> +
>>> +	in->ops.atv->set_timings(in, &ddata->timings);
>>> +	/* fixme: should we receive the invert from our consumer, i.e. the connector? */
>>> +	in->ops.atv->invert_vid_out_polarity(in, true);
>>
>> Well this does seem to be broken. I don't know what the answer to the
>> question above is, but the code doesn't work properly.
>>
>> In the opa362_invert_vid_out_polarity function below, you get the invert
>> boolean from the connector. This you pass to the OMAP venc. However,
>> above you always override that value in venc with true.
>>
>> So, either the invert_vid_out_polarity value has to be always true or
>> false, because _OPA362_ requires it to be true or false, OR you need use
>> the value from the connector.
>>
>> Seeing the comment in opa362_invert_vid_out_polarity, my guess is the
>> latter, and the call above should be removed.
> 
> Yes, you are right - this is not systematic.
> 
> But the problem is that we can?t ask the connector here what it wants
> to see. It might (or might not) call our opa362_invert_vid_out_polarity() later
> which we can then forward to overwrite the inital state of this opa362_enable().

You don't need to ask. The connector calls invert_vid_out_polarity
before enabling the output. You can just pass it forward inverted, as
you already do in this driver. If it doesn't, it's either a bug or you
can just rely on the value that is already programmed to venc.

>> We are going to support only DT boot at some point. Thus I think the
>> whole platform data code should be left out.
> 
> Is there already a decision? I think it should not be done before. And it
> does not harm to still have it.

It's just a matter of time. I don't accept any new boards using platform
data for display, or new display drivers using platform data, because I
don't want to spend my time converting them later. And as this is a new
driver, no existing board can be using the opa362 platform_data. So we
can support DT only.

 Tomi


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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
To: "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>
Cc: Marek Belisko <marek@goldelico.com>, <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	<pawel.moll@arm.com>, <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	<ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>, <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	<bcousson@baylibre.com>, <tony@atomide.com>,
	<linux@arm.linux.org.uk>, <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com>,
	<grant.likely@linaro.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>, <gta04-owner@goldelico.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] video: omapdss: Add opa362 driver
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:41:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5464DF26.2010707@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9FD016B8-4EA2-4A0D-B790-6494AB449B31@goldelico.com>

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On 13/11/14 18:25, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Am 13.11.2014 um 12:51 schrieb Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>:
> 
>> On 13/11/14 00:10, Marek Belisko wrote:
>>> opa362 is amplifier for video and can be connected to the tvout pads
>>> of the OMAP3. It has one gpio control for enable/disable of the output
>>> (high impedance).
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: H. Nikolaus Schaller <hns@goldelico.com>
>>> ---
>>> drivers/video/fbdev/omap2/displays-new/Kconfig     |   6 +
>>> drivers/video/fbdev/omap2/displays-new/Makefile    |   1 +
>>> .../fbdev/omap2/displays-new/amplifier-opa362.c    | 343 +++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> I think it would be better to rename this to encoder-opa362.c. It's not
> 
> When developing this driver we did simply rename the encoder-tfp410 file,
> but thent hough that it does not fit into the „encoder“ category, because we
> would expect something digital or digital to analog „encoding“ which it does not.

That is true, but we already have other "encoders" like
encoder-tpd12s015.c, which also do not encode. "encoder" in this context
means something that takes a video input, and has a video output. In
contrast to a panel or a connector.

>>> +
>>> +	in->ops.atv->set_timings(in, &ddata->timings);
>>> +	/* fixme: should we receive the invert from our consumer, i.e. the connector? */
>>> +	in->ops.atv->invert_vid_out_polarity(in, true);
>>
>> Well this does seem to be broken. I don't know what the answer to the
>> question above is, but the code doesn't work properly.
>>
>> In the opa362_invert_vid_out_polarity function below, you get the invert
>> boolean from the connector. This you pass to the OMAP venc. However,
>> above you always override that value in venc with true.
>>
>> So, either the invert_vid_out_polarity value has to be always true or
>> false, because _OPA362_ requires it to be true or false, OR you need use
>> the value from the connector.
>>
>> Seeing the comment in opa362_invert_vid_out_polarity, my guess is the
>> latter, and the call above should be removed.
> 
> Yes, you are right - this is not systematic.
> 
> But the problem is that we can’t ask the connector here what it wants
> to see. It might (or might not) call our opa362_invert_vid_out_polarity() later
> which we can then forward to overwrite the inital state of this opa362_enable().

You don't need to ask. The connector calls invert_vid_out_polarity
before enabling the output. You can just pass it forward inverted, as
you already do in this driver. If it doesn't, it's either a bug or you
can just rely on the value that is already programmed to venc.

>> We are going to support only DT boot at some point. Thus I think the
>> whole platform data code should be left out.
> 
> Is there already a decision? I think it should not be done before. And it
> does not harm to still have it.

It's just a matter of time. I don't accept any new boards using platform
data for display, or new display drivers using platform data, because I
don't want to spend my time converting them later. And as this is a new
driver, no existing board can be using the opa362 platform_data. So we
can support DT only.

 Tomi



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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-13 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-12 22:10 [PATCH v2 0/5] omapdss: Add video output support for gta04 board Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10 ` Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10 ` Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10 ` Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] video: omapdss: Add opa362 driver Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10   ` Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10   ` Marek Belisko
2014-11-13 11:51   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-13 11:51     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-13 11:51     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-13 11:51     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-13 16:25     ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2014-11-13 16:25       ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2014-11-13 16:25       ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2014-11-13 16:25       ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2014-11-13 16:41       ` Tomi Valkeinen [this message]
2014-11-13 16:41         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-13 16:41         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-13 16:41         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-19 15:10         ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2014-11-19 15:10           ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2014-11-19 15:10           ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2014-11-24 11:47           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-24 11:47             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-24 11:47             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-24 11:47             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-11-12 22:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] Documentation: DT: Add documentation for ti,opa362 bindings Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10   ` Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] Documentation: DT: Add documentation for ti, opa362 bindings Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10   ` Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] arm: dts: omap3-gta04: Add handling for tv output Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10   ` Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10   ` Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] arm: dts: omap3: Add definition for devconf1 register Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10   ` Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10   ` Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] arm: dts: omap3-gta04: Add static configuration " Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10   ` Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10   ` Marek Belisko
2014-11-12 22:10   ` Marek Belisko

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