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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
Cc: Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] sched/fair: Add advisory flag for borrowing a timeslice (was: Pre-emption control for userspace)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 08:38:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5474863A.6010307@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1416897050.20575.18.camel@linux-t7sj.site>

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On 11/25/2014 01:30 AM, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 21:03 -0500, Rik van Riel wrote:
>> I can see this "solution" help mostly with userspace spinlocks, 
>> which are relics of a past era that need to die. There is no way
>> userspace spinlocks will not fail miserably on virtual machines,
>> and it is time to get rid of them.
> 
> No, not really. Spinlocks are still very useful on bare metal. 
> Virtualization is not the only thing out there.

How many people are going to build two different binaries,
one for bare metal, and one for virtualized environments?

I suspect the vast majority of applications will only be
built once, and it would be nice if it wasn't using a
locking scheme that broke horribly on a significant part
of the deployments...

- -- 
All rights reversed
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-25 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-24 20:56 [PATCH v3] sched/fair: Add advisory flag for borrowing a timeslice (was: Pre-emption control for userspace) Khalid Aziz
2014-11-24 22:43 ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]   ` <20141124224302.GL10824-KWJ+5VKanrL29G5dvP0v1laTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 23:20     ` Khalid Aziz
2014-11-24 23:20       ` Khalid Aziz
2014-11-24 23:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-25  2:12   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-11-25  2:12     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-11-25  4:20   ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]     ` <1416889208.4335.127.camel-sZ+7a5bGyC/1wTEvPJ5Q0F6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25 14:50       ` [PATCH v3] sched/fair: Add advisory flag for borrowing a timeslice Khalid Aziz
2014-11-25 14:50         ` Khalid Aziz
2014-11-25 17:46         ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]           ` <1416937564.3512.15.camel-sZ+7a5bGyC/1wTEvPJ5Q0F6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25 19:38             ` Khalid Aziz
2014-11-25 19:38               ` Khalid Aziz
2014-11-25 14:45   ` Khalid Aziz
     [not found]     ` <54749617.5030309-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25 18:27       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-11-25 18:27         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-11-25 19:23         ` Khalid Aziz
     [not found]           ` <5474D71E.8070603-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25 19:40             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-11-25 19:40               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-11-25  2:03 ` [PATCH v3] sched/fair: Add advisory flag for borrowing a timeslice (was: Pre-emption control for userspace) Rik van Riel
2014-11-25  6:30   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-11-25 13:38     ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2014-11-25 14:52   ` [PATCH v3] sched/fair: Add advisory flag for borrowing a timeslice Khalid Aziz
2014-11-25 15:25     ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]       ` <54749F77.50905-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25 17:22         ` Khalid Aziz
2014-11-25 17:22           ` Khalid Aziz
2014-11-25 17:45           ` Rik van Riel
     [not found] ` <1416862595-24513-1-git-send-email-khalid.aziz-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25 10:12   ` [PATCH v3] sched/fair: Add advisory flag for borrowing a timeslice (was: Pre-emption control for userspace) Srikar Dronamraju
2014-11-25 10:12     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2014-11-25 14:56     ` [PATCH v3] sched/fair: Add advisory flag for borrowing a timeslice Khalid Aziz

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