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From: Vladimir Zapolskiy <vladimir_zapolskiy-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Question about fixed regulator DT properties
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:57:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <547630AD.1010108@mentor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141126192021.GU7712-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>

On 26.11.2014 21:20, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 09:13:50PM +0200, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
> 
>> If I want to enable a fixed regulator (not controlled by
>> bootloader/firmware) by Linux on boot or when fixed.ko module is bound,
>> shall I specify the same "regulator-boot-on" property? At least this is
>> the practical way to enable a fixed and/or gpio regulator right now, but
>> is it correct?
> 
> It depends what you're trying to accomplish by doing this.

If "regulator-boot-on" is specified and the regulator is enabled by
bootloader/firmware, then the kernel re-enables it.

If "regulator-boot-on" is specified and the regulator is untouched by
bootloader/firmware, then the kernel simply enables it.

As far as I understand the latter side-effect is exploited on quite many
ARM boards, when there is no defined regulator consumer, but I agree
that it looks hackish. My assumption is that probably fixed regulator
logic around "regulator-boot-on" property should be changed, so that the
kernel will not attempt to physically re-enable/enable the
"regulator-boot-on" regulator at all, then misusage of the property
should gone forced by necessity of finding a proper regulator consumer.

>> Or should the regulator always be enabled externally (assuming
>> "regulator-always-on" is omitted) after registration independently on
>> "regulator-boot-on" property?
> 
> Best practice is that there should be a consumer which keeps the
> regulator enabled whenever it is required.  There should normally be
> little use for boot-on, it's mostly there to ease handover from the
> bootloader in cases where we can't read the hardware state - if you're
> not sure if you should use it the chances are you shouldn't.
> 

Right, thank you for explanation.

--
With best wishes,
Vladimir
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From: Vladimir Zapolskiy <vladimir_zapolskiy@mentor.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Question about fixed regulator DT properties
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:57:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <547630AD.1010108@mentor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141126192021.GU7712@sirena.org.uk>

On 26.11.2014 21:20, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 09:13:50PM +0200, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
> 
>> If I want to enable a fixed regulator (not controlled by
>> bootloader/firmware) by Linux on boot or when fixed.ko module is bound,
>> shall I specify the same "regulator-boot-on" property? At least this is
>> the practical way to enable a fixed and/or gpio regulator right now, but
>> is it correct?
> 
> It depends what you're trying to accomplish by doing this.

If "regulator-boot-on" is specified and the regulator is enabled by
bootloader/firmware, then the kernel re-enables it.

If "regulator-boot-on" is specified and the regulator is untouched by
bootloader/firmware, then the kernel simply enables it.

As far as I understand the latter side-effect is exploited on quite many
ARM boards, when there is no defined regulator consumer, but I agree
that it looks hackish. My assumption is that probably fixed regulator
logic around "regulator-boot-on" property should be changed, so that the
kernel will not attempt to physically re-enable/enable the
"regulator-boot-on" regulator at all, then misusage of the property
should gone forced by necessity of finding a proper regulator consumer.

>> Or should the regulator always be enabled externally (assuming
>> "regulator-always-on" is omitted) after registration independently on
>> "regulator-boot-on" property?
> 
> Best practice is that there should be a consumer which keeps the
> regulator enabled whenever it is required.  There should normally be
> little use for boot-on, it's mostly there to ease handover from the
> bootloader in cases where we can't read the hardware state - if you're
> not sure if you should use it the chances are you shouldn't.
> 

Right, thank you for explanation.

--
With best wishes,
Vladimir

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-26 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-18 15:00 Question about Vladimir Zapolskiy
2014-11-18 15:00 ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2014-11-19 14:38 ` Question about fixed regulator DT properties Vladimir Zapolskiy
2014-11-19 14:38   ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
     [not found]   ` <546CAB49.8030103-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25 12:17     ` Mark Brown
2014-11-25 12:17       ` Mark Brown
     [not found]       ` <20141125121749.GV7712-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-26 17:27         ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2014-11-26 17:27           ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2014-11-26 17:53           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]             ` <20141126175304.GM7712-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-26 19:13               ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2014-11-26 19:13                 ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
     [not found]                 ` <5476266E.9040901-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-26 19:20                   ` Mark Brown
2014-11-26 19:20                     ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                     ` <20141126192021.GU7712-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-26 19:57                       ` Vladimir Zapolskiy [this message]
2014-11-26 19:57                         ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2014-11-26 20:36                         ` Mark Brown

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