From: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH-v5 1/5] vfs: add support for a lazytime mount option
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 19:55:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <547DFD24.9070805@plexistor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141202125820.GE9092@quack.suse.cz>
On 12/02/2014 02:58 PM, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Fri 28-11-14 13:14:21, Ted Tso wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 06:23:23PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
>>> Hum, when someone calls fsync() for an inode, you likely want to sync
>>> timestamps to disk even if everything else is clean. I think that doing
>>> what you did in last version:
>>> dirty = inode->i_state & I_DIRTY_INODE;
>>> inode->i_state &= ~I_DIRTY_INODE;
>>> spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock);
>>> if (dirty & I_DIRTY_TIME)
>>> mark_inode_dirty_sync(inode);
>>> looks better to me. IMO when someone calls __writeback_single_inode() we
>>> should write whatever we have...
>>
>> Yes, but we also have to distinguish between what happens on an
>> fsync() versus what happens on a periodic writeback if I_DIRTY_PAGES
>> (but not I_DIRTY_SYNC or I_DIRTY_DATASYNC) is set. So there is a
>> check in the fsync() code path to handle the concern you raised above.
> Ah, this is the thing you have been likely talking about but which I was
> constantly missing in my thoughts. You don't want to write times when inode
> has only dirty pages and timestamps -
This I do not understand. I thought that I_DIRTY_TIME, and the all
lazytime mount option, is only for atime. So if there are dirty
pages then there are also m/ctime that changed and surly we want to
write these times to disk ASAP.
if we are lazytime also with m/ctime then I think I would like an
option for only atime lazy. because m/ctime is cardinal to some
operations even though I might want atime lazy.
Sorry for the slowness, I'm probably missing something
Thanks
Boaz
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From: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH-v5 1/5] vfs: add support for a lazytime mount option
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 19:55:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <547DFD24.9070805@plexistor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141202125820.GE9092@quack.suse.cz>
On 12/02/2014 02:58 PM, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Fri 28-11-14 13:14:21, Ted Tso wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 06:23:23PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
>>> Hum, when someone calls fsync() for an inode, you likely want to sync
>>> timestamps to disk even if everything else is clean. I think that doing
>>> what you did in last version:
>>> dirty = inode->i_state & I_DIRTY_INODE;
>>> inode->i_state &= ~I_DIRTY_INODE;
>>> spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock);
>>> if (dirty & I_DIRTY_TIME)
>>> mark_inode_dirty_sync(inode);
>>> looks better to me. IMO when someone calls __writeback_single_inode() we
>>> should write whatever we have...
>>
>> Yes, but we also have to distinguish between what happens on an
>> fsync() versus what happens on a periodic writeback if I_DIRTY_PAGES
>> (but not I_DIRTY_SYNC or I_DIRTY_DATASYNC) is set. So there is a
>> check in the fsync() code path to handle the concern you raised above.
> Ah, this is the thing you have been likely talking about but which I was
> constantly missing in my thoughts. You don't want to write times when inode
> has only dirty pages and timestamps -
This I do not understand. I thought that I_DIRTY_TIME, and the all
lazytime mount option, is only for atime. So if there are dirty
pages then there are also m/ctime that changed and surly we want to
write these times to disk ASAP.
if we are lazytime also with m/ctime then I think I would like an
option for only atime lazy. because m/ctime is cardinal to some
operations even though I might want atime lazy.
Sorry for the slowness, I'm probably missing something
Thanks
Boaz
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-02 18:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-28 6:00 [PATCH-v5 0/5] add support for a lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 6:00 ` [PATCH-v5 1/5] vfs: " Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 17:23 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20141128181421.GA19461@google.com>
2014-12-02 12:58 ` Jan Kara
2014-12-02 12:58 ` Jan Kara
2014-12-02 17:55 ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2014-12-02 17:55 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-12-02 19:23 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-12-02 19:23 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-12-02 20:37 ` Andreas Dilger
2014-12-02 20:37 ` Andreas Dilger
2014-12-02 21:01 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-12-02 21:01 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 6:00 ` [PATCH-v5 2/5] vfs: don't let the dirty time inodes get more than a day stale Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 16:43 ` Jan Kara
2014-11-28 6:00 ` [PATCH 2/5] vfs: use writeback lists to provide lazytime one day timeout Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 17:20 ` Jan Kara
2014-11-28 6:00 ` [PATCH-v5 3/5] vfs: add lazytime tracepoints for better debugging Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 6:00 ` [PATCH-v5 4/5] vfs: add find_inode_nowait() function Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 6:00 ` [PATCH-v5 5/5] ext4: add optimization for the lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 8:55 ` [PATCH-v5 0/5] add support for a " Sedat Dilek
2014-11-28 15:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-28 16:32 ` Jan Kara
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