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From: cpebenito@tresys.com (Christopher J. PeBenito)
To: refpolicy@oss.tresys.com
Subject: [refpolicy] [PATCH] Add all the missing _admin interfaces to sysadm
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 11:07:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <547F355C.3030902@tresys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141203153942.GA29001@e145.network2>

On 12/3/2014 10:39 AM, Dominick Grift wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:56:31AM -0500, Christopher J. PeBenito 
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not opposed to this change, but I wonder about cases
>>>> like these:
>>>> 
>>>>> + +optional_policy(` +	asterisk_admin(sysadm_t, sysadm_r) 
>>>>> asterisk_stream_connect(sysadm_t) ')
>>>> 
>>>> Since I would assume that the admin interface would already 
>>>> include the existing rule.
>>> 
>>> Bacula_admin does indeed call _run_admin so i'll take that 
>>> away, asterisk does not call _stream_connect so that one is 
>>> correct. I will
>> 
>> I think there is still the question, should the stream connect
>> be added to the admin interface?
>> 
> 
> In my opinion where refpolicy went wrong is by allowing confined 
> user domains this low level access in the first place shells do
> not stream connect, applications do.sysadm is a strict domain and
> so it should run the app that stream connects in the apps domain
> with a domain transition if that makes sense.
> 
> That is strict. Anything else is "drunken unconfined" in my view, 
> or at least a compromise.
> 
> In my vision confined users should be strictly enforced (least 
> privilege) or at least as much as possible

I understand your position, but I believe the (IMO modest) gains don't
outweigh the additional complexity cost.  In this case, if your admin
is abusing their privileges, then there is a worse problem.  I think a
more effective confinement would be eliminating sysadm's blanket
manage access on basically the entire filesystem.  If all these admin
interfaces work well, all that access won't be necessary.

-- 
Chris PeBenito
Tresys Technology, LLC
www.tresys.com | oss.tresys.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-03 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-03 12:28 [refpolicy] [PATCH] Add all the missing _admin interfaces to sysadm Jason Zaman
2014-12-03 13:18 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2014-12-03 13:42   ` Jason Zaman
2014-12-03 13:56     ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2014-12-03 14:27       ` Dominick Grift
2014-12-03 15:29         ` Jason Zaman
2014-12-03 15:41           ` Dominick Grift
2014-12-03 15:44           ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2014-12-03 15:50             ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2014-12-03 15:55               ` Dominick Grift
2014-12-03 16:12                 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2014-12-03 16:19                   ` Dominick Grift
2014-12-03 15:39       ` Dominick Grift
2014-12-03 15:50         ` Dominick Grift
2014-12-03 16:07         ` Christopher J. PeBenito [this message]
2014-12-03 16:28           ` Dominick Grift
2014-12-03 16:47             ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2015-04-03 14:29               ` Miroslav Grepl

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