From: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Filipe David Manana <fdmanana@gmail.com>
Cc: "dsterba@suse.cz" <dsterba@suse.cz>,
"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
fstests@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] btrfs-progs: Add support for btrfs-image + corrupt script fsck test case.
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:56:04 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <549A2B44.5020103@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141224000354.GJ4521@dastard>
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] btrfs-progs: Add support for btrfs-image +
corrupt script fsck test case.
From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Filipe David Manana <fdmanana@gmail.com>
Date: 2014年12月24日 08:03
> [ Sorry to take some time to get to this, it got caught by a spam
> filter and I only just noticed. ]
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 02:08:53PM +0000, Filipe David Manana wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Qu Wenruo <quwenruo@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] btrfs-progs: Add support for btrfs-image + corrupt
>>> script fsck test case.
>>> From: David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>
>>> To: Filipe David Manana <fdmanana@gmail.com>
>>> Date: 2014年12月16日 02:19
>>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:13:45AM +0000, Filipe David Manana wrote:
>>>>>> So another thing I would like to see is doing a more comprehensive
>>>>>> verification that the repair code worked as expected. Currently we
>>>>>> only check that a readonly fsck, after running fsck --repair, returns
>>>>>> 0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the improvements you've been doing, it's equally important to
>>>>>> verify that --repair recovered the inodes, links, etc to the
>>>>>> lost+found directory (or whatever is the directory's name).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So perhaps adding a verify.sh script to the tarball for example?
>>>>> Or, forgot before, it might be better to do such verification/test in
>>>>> xfstests since we can create the fs and use the new btrfs-progs
>>>>> programs to corrupt leafs/nodes. xfstests has a lot of infrastructure
>>>>> already and probably run by a lot more people (compared to the fsck
>>>>> tests of btrfs-progs).
>>>> I'm thinking about the best way how to integrate that, but it seems that
>>>> there will be always some level of code or infrastructure duplication
>>>> (or other hassle).
>>>>
>>>> btrfs-corrupt-block is not installed by default (make install) and it's
>>>> not a type of utility I'd consider for default installations. The tests
>>>> would be skipped in absence of the utility, so there will be test
>>>> environments where "install xfstests, install btrfspprogs" will not add
>>>> the desired test coverage. Solvable by packaging the extra progs.
>>>>
>>>> Adding corrupt-block into xfsprogs is infeasible (IMO too much code from
>>>> btrfs-progs to be added).
>>>>
>>>> I don't know how much infrastructure code we'd have to either write or
>>>> copy from fstests, but I think it would not be that much. Ideally we
>>>> could write the tests within btrfs-progs and then submit them to fstests
>>>> once they're considered reliable. If we keep the same "syntax" of the
>>>> tests, provide stubs where applicable, the code duplication in test
>>>> itself would be zero. We'd only have to write the stubs in btrfs-progs
>>>> and probably extend fstests to provide helpers for preparing/unpacking
>>>> the images.
>>> In my wildest idea, if we have a good enough btrfs debugger(maybe even
>>> stronger than debugfs), which can
>>> do almost everything from read key/item to corrupt given structure, then we
>>> can resolve them all.
>>> No binary image since corruption can be done by it and verify can also done
>>> by it.
>>> (OK, it's just a daydream)
>>>
>>> But IMHO, isn't xfstests designed to mainly detect kernel defeats?
>>> I don't see any fsck tool test case in it.
>> I don't think xfstests is specific to test the kernel implementation
>> of filesystems. I believe it includes user space code too, but I might
>> be wrong so I'm CCing fstests and Dave to get an authoritative answer.
> We use fstests to test everything we ship for XFS - kernel and
> userspace. i.e. we have tests that corrupt filesystems with xfs_db
> and then test that xfs_repair can fix them, and once fixed the
> filesystem can be mounted and used by the kernel...
>
> i.e. fstests is for testing both the kernel code and the utilities
> used to manipulate filesystems.
That's great.
But what will happen if some btrfs cases need binary(still huge even
compressed) or
btrfs-image dump(some existing dumps are already several MB)?
Will it be OK for fstests?
Or should we wait until btrfs-progs has a good debug tools like xfs_db
or debugfs and use
them to generate the corrupted image like xfs testcases do?
Thanks,
Qu
>
>> And I don't see a big problem with btrfs-corrupt not being built by
>> default when running "make" on btrfs-progs. We can make the xfstest
>> not run and print an informative message if the btrfs-corrupt program
>> isn't available - several xfstests do this, they require some
>> executable which isn't either in the xfstests nor xfsprogs
>> repositories - for example generic/241 which requires 'dbench' and
>> generic/299 which requires 'fio'.
> _require_btrfs_corrupt_prog()
>
> Just like we do with lots of other optional userspace tools that are
> required for various tests to run.
>
>> I also have a slight preference to get all
>> tests in the same place (xfstests) rather than in multiple
>> repositories (btrfs-progs, xfstests).
> Definitely my preference as well.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.
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From: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Filipe David Manana <fdmanana@gmail.com>
Cc: "dsterba@suse.cz" <dsterba@suse.cz>,
"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
<fstests@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] btrfs-progs: Add support for btrfs-image + corrupt script fsck test case.
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:56:04 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <549A2B44.5020103@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141224000354.GJ4521@dastard>
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] btrfs-progs: Add support for btrfs-image +
corrupt script fsck test case.
From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Filipe David Manana <fdmanana@gmail.com>
Date: 2014年12月24日 08:03
> [ Sorry to take some time to get to this, it got caught by a spam
> filter and I only just noticed. ]
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 02:08:53PM +0000, Filipe David Manana wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Qu Wenruo <quwenruo@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] btrfs-progs: Add support for btrfs-image + corrupt
>>> script fsck test case.
>>> From: David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>
>>> To: Filipe David Manana <fdmanana@gmail.com>
>>> Date: 2014年12月16日 02:19
>>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:13:45AM +0000, Filipe David Manana wrote:
>>>>>> So another thing I would like to see is doing a more comprehensive
>>>>>> verification that the repair code worked as expected. Currently we
>>>>>> only check that a readonly fsck, after running fsck --repair, returns
>>>>>> 0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the improvements you've been doing, it's equally important to
>>>>>> verify that --repair recovered the inodes, links, etc to the
>>>>>> lost+found directory (or whatever is the directory's name).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So perhaps adding a verify.sh script to the tarball for example?
>>>>> Or, forgot before, it might be better to do such verification/test in
>>>>> xfstests since we can create the fs and use the new btrfs-progs
>>>>> programs to corrupt leafs/nodes. xfstests has a lot of infrastructure
>>>>> already and probably run by a lot more people (compared to the fsck
>>>>> tests of btrfs-progs).
>>>> I'm thinking about the best way how to integrate that, but it seems that
>>>> there will be always some level of code or infrastructure duplication
>>>> (or other hassle).
>>>>
>>>> btrfs-corrupt-block is not installed by default (make install) and it's
>>>> not a type of utility I'd consider for default installations. The tests
>>>> would be skipped in absence of the utility, so there will be test
>>>> environments where "install xfstests, install btrfspprogs" will not add
>>>> the desired test coverage. Solvable by packaging the extra progs.
>>>>
>>>> Adding corrupt-block into xfsprogs is infeasible (IMO too much code from
>>>> btrfs-progs to be added).
>>>>
>>>> I don't know how much infrastructure code we'd have to either write or
>>>> copy from fstests, but I think it would not be that much. Ideally we
>>>> could write the tests within btrfs-progs and then submit them to fstests
>>>> once they're considered reliable. If we keep the same "syntax" of the
>>>> tests, provide stubs where applicable, the code duplication in test
>>>> itself would be zero. We'd only have to write the stubs in btrfs-progs
>>>> and probably extend fstests to provide helpers for preparing/unpacking
>>>> the images.
>>> In my wildest idea, if we have a good enough btrfs debugger(maybe even
>>> stronger than debugfs), which can
>>> do almost everything from read key/item to corrupt given structure, then we
>>> can resolve them all.
>>> No binary image since corruption can be done by it and verify can also done
>>> by it.
>>> (OK, it's just a daydream)
>>>
>>> But IMHO, isn't xfstests designed to mainly detect kernel defeats?
>>> I don't see any fsck tool test case in it.
>> I don't think xfstests is specific to test the kernel implementation
>> of filesystems. I believe it includes user space code too, but I might
>> be wrong so I'm CCing fstests and Dave to get an authoritative answer.
> We use fstests to test everything we ship for XFS - kernel and
> userspace. i.e. we have tests that corrupt filesystems with xfs_db
> and then test that xfs_repair can fix them, and once fixed the
> filesystem can be mounted and used by the kernel...
>
> i.e. fstests is for testing both the kernel code and the utilities
> used to manipulate filesystems.
That's great.
But what will happen if some btrfs cases need binary(still huge even
compressed) or
btrfs-image dump(some existing dumps are already several MB)?
Will it be OK for fstests?
Or should we wait until btrfs-progs has a good debug tools like xfs_db
or debugfs and use
them to generate the corrupted image like xfs testcases do?
Thanks,
Qu
>
>> And I don't see a big problem with btrfs-corrupt not being built by
>> default when running "make" on btrfs-progs. We can make the xfstest
>> not run and print an informative message if the btrfs-corrupt program
>> isn't available - several xfstests do this, they require some
>> executable which isn't either in the xfstests nor xfsprogs
>> repositories - for example generic/241 which requires 'dbench' and
>> generic/299 which requires 'fio'.
> _require_btrfs_corrupt_prog()
>
> Just like we do with lots of other optional userspace tools that are
> required for various tests to run.
>
>> I also have a slight preference to get all
>> tests in the same place (xfstests) rather than in multiple
>> repositories (btrfs-progs, xfstests).
> Definitely my preference as well.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-24 2:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-15 3:54 [PATCH 1/2] btrfs-progs: Add support for btrfs-image + corrupt script fsck test case Qu Wenruo
2014-12-15 6:09 ` Qu Wenruo
2014-12-18 17:16 ` David Sterba
2014-12-15 9:00 ` Filipe David Manana
2014-12-15 9:40 ` Qu Wenruo
2014-12-15 9:43 ` Filipe David Manana
2014-12-16 1:00 ` Qu Wenruo
2014-12-15 9:36 ` Filipe David Manana
2014-12-15 10:13 ` Filipe David Manana
2014-12-15 18:19 ` David Sterba
2014-12-16 1:35 ` Qu Wenruo
2014-12-16 14:08 ` Filipe David Manana
2014-12-24 0:03 ` Dave Chinner
2014-12-24 2:56 ` Qu Wenruo [this message]
2014-12-24 2:56 ` Qu Wenruo
2014-12-24 3:27 ` Dave Chinner
2014-12-15 17:35 ` David Sterba
2014-12-16 0:58 ` Qu Wenruo
2014-12-16 13:55 ` Filipe David Manana
2014-12-17 0:49 ` Qu Wenruo
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