From: vladimir.murzin@arm.com (Vladimir Murzin)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: ioremap vs remap_pfn_range, VMSPLIT, etc
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 18:06:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B018B8.1080306@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54B013F0.10408@free.fr>
On 09/01/15 17:46, Mason wrote:
> On 09/01/2015 14:13, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 01:59:10PM +0100, Mason wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday, I used /dev/mem to mmap 2 GB and (to my surprise) it worked.
>>> Specifically, I opened /dev/mem O_RDWR | O_SYNC
>>> then called
>>> mmap(NULL, 1U<<31, PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0x80000000);
>>
>> So you asked to map 2GB starting at 2GB physical.
>>
>>> And mmap returned a valid pointer.
>>
>> And that mapping would have been created to map physical addresses
>> 0x80000000-0xffffffff inclusive.
>>
>>> I was expecting it to fail.
>>>
>>> - the kernel is configured with VMSPLIT_3G (3G/1G user/kernel)
>>
>> This has no bearing on the above.
>
> I don't understand why.
>
> mmap allocates virtual addresses in the user-space process, yes?
> So if I had VMSPLIT_2G, user-space processes would be limited
> to 2G virtual addresses, and could not create a single 2G map
> on top of its stack and text space. Or am I missing something?
>
Because you are mmaping special file (dev/mem) mmap call is routed to
the dedicated hook, responsible for all "magic" you see. Please, take a
look at drivers/char/mem.c for details.
Vladimir
>>> - the kernel manages 256 MB RAM
>>> - there is roughly 750 MB of VMALLOC space, no highmem
>>
>> vmalloc has no bearing on the above, mmap() doesn't allocate anything
>> into vmalloc space.
>
> This means remap_pfn_range doesn't "put" anything in the kernel's
> virtual address space.
>
>>> If I requested the same mapping *within the kernel* using ioremap,
>>> would that fail because of limited VMALLOC space?
>>
>> Correct.
>
> OK.
>
>>> Moving to arch-specific questions (namely ARM Cortex-A9).
>>> If I understand correctly (which is very possibly NOT the case)
>>> the CPU has two registers pointing to page tables, one for
>>> the current process, one for the kernel. And the CPU automatically
>>> picks the correct one, based on the active context?
>>> It would seem possible to have a full 4G for process, and a full 4G
>>> for the kernel, using that method, no? (Like Ingo's old 4G/4G split).
>>> Without the performance overhead of fiddling with the page tables.
>>> What am I missing?
>>
>> It's possible to use both, but the CPU selects the page table register
>> according to the virtual address. So it's not possible to have 4G for
>> both. There's only a restricted set of options: 2G / 2G, where the
>> bottom 2G of virtual space uses TTBR0 and the upper 2G uses TTBR1.
>> 1G / 3G (1G for TTBR0, 3G for TTBR1).
>>
>> We don't use it because most people run with 3G for userspace, which
>> isn't supported in hardware.
>
> I see. Thanks for spelling it out.
>
> Regards.
>
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From: Vladimir Murzin <vladimir.murzin@arm.com>
To: Mason <mpeg.blue@free.fr>,
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: ioremap vs remap_pfn_range, VMSPLIT, etc
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 18:06:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B018B8.1080306@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54B013F0.10408@free.fr>
On 09/01/15 17:46, Mason wrote:
> On 09/01/2015 14:13, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 01:59:10PM +0100, Mason wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday, I used /dev/mem to mmap 2 GB and (to my surprise) it worked.
>>> Specifically, I opened /dev/mem O_RDWR | O_SYNC
>>> then called
>>> mmap(NULL, 1U<<31, PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0x80000000);
>>
>> So you asked to map 2GB starting at 2GB physical.
>>
>>> And mmap returned a valid pointer.
>>
>> And that mapping would have been created to map physical addresses
>> 0x80000000-0xffffffff inclusive.
>>
>>> I was expecting it to fail.
>>>
>>> - the kernel is configured with VMSPLIT_3G (3G/1G user/kernel)
>>
>> This has no bearing on the above.
>
> I don't understand why.
>
> mmap allocates virtual addresses in the user-space process, yes?
> So if I had VMSPLIT_2G, user-space processes would be limited
> to 2G virtual addresses, and could not create a single 2G map
> on top of its stack and text space. Or am I missing something?
>
Because you are mmaping special file (dev/mem) mmap call is routed to
the dedicated hook, responsible for all "magic" you see. Please, take a
look at drivers/char/mem.c for details.
Vladimir
>>> - the kernel manages 256 MB RAM
>>> - there is roughly 750 MB of VMALLOC space, no highmem
>>
>> vmalloc has no bearing on the above, mmap() doesn't allocate anything
>> into vmalloc space.
>
> This means remap_pfn_range doesn't "put" anything in the kernel's
> virtual address space.
>
>>> If I requested the same mapping *within the kernel* using ioremap,
>>> would that fail because of limited VMALLOC space?
>>
>> Correct.
>
> OK.
>
>>> Moving to arch-specific questions (namely ARM Cortex-A9).
>>> If I understand correctly (which is very possibly NOT the case)
>>> the CPU has two registers pointing to page tables, one for
>>> the current process, one for the kernel. And the CPU automatically
>>> picks the correct one, based on the active context?
>>> It would seem possible to have a full 4G for process, and a full 4G
>>> for the kernel, using that method, no? (Like Ingo's old 4G/4G split).
>>> Without the performance overhead of fiddling with the page tables.
>>> What am I missing?
>>
>> It's possible to use both, but the CPU selects the page table register
>> according to the virtual address. So it's not possible to have 4G for
>> both. There's only a restricted set of options: 2G / 2G, where the
>> bottom 2G of virtual space uses TTBR0 and the upper 2G uses TTBR1.
>> 1G / 3G (1G for TTBR0, 3G for TTBR1).
>>
>> We don't use it because most people run with 3G for userspace, which
>> isn't supported in hardware.
>
> I see. Thanks for spelling it out.
>
> Regards.
>
> _______________________________________________
> linux-arm-kernel mailing list
> linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-09 18:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-09 12:59 ioremap vs remap_pfn_range, VMSPLIT, etc Mason
2015-01-09 12:59 ` Mason
2015-01-09 13:13 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-09 13:13 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-09 17:46 ` Mason
2015-01-09 17:46 ` Mason
2015-01-09 18:06 ` Vladimir Murzin [this message]
2015-01-09 18:06 ` Vladimir Murzin
2015-01-09 18:42 ` Mason
2015-01-09 18:42 ` Mason
2015-01-09 19:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-09 19:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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