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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: David Drysdale <drysdale@google.com>, Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv10 man-pages 5/5] execveat.2: initial man page for execveat(2)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 09:27:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B0E282.7090203@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHse=S88Jy5ZKM_VY5onfvxX7dTMngnxuHfuLeSuzvKvQNP19A@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/09/2015 06:46 PM, David Drysdale wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 04:47:31PM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>> On 11/24/2014 12:53 PM, David Drysdale wrote:
>>>> Signed-off-by: David Drysdale <drysdale@google.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  man2/execveat.2 | 153 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  1 file changed, 153 insertions(+)
>>>>  create mode 100644 man2/execveat.2
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the very nicely prepared man page. I've done
>>> a few very light edits, and will release the version below
>>> with the next man-pages release.
>>>
>>> I have one question. In the message accompanying
>>> commit 51f39a1f0cea1cacf8c787f652f26dfee9611874 you wrote:
>>>
>>>   The filename fed to the executed program as argv[0] (or the name of the
>>>   script fed to a script interpreter) will be of the form "/dev/fd/<fd>"
>>>   (for an empty filename) or "/dev/fd/<fd>/<filename>", effectively
>>>   reflecting how the executable was found.  This does however mean that
>>>   execution of a script in a /proc-less environment won't work; also, script
>>>   execution via an O_CLOEXEC file descriptor fails (as the file will not be
>>>   accessible after exec).
>>>
>>> How does one produce this situation where the execed program sees
>>> argv[0] as a /dev/fd path? (i.e., what would the execveat()
>>> call look like?) I tried to produce this scenario, but could not.
>>
>> I think this is wrong. argv[0] is an arbitrary string provided by the
>> caller and would never be derived from the fd passed.
> 
> Yeah, I think I just wrote that wrong, it's only relevant for scripts.
> As Rich says, for normal binaries argv[0] is just the argv[0] that
> was passed into the execve[at] call.  For a script, the code in
> fs/binfmt_script.c will remove the original argv[0] and put the
> interpreter name and the script filename (e.g. "/bin/sh",
> "/dev/fd/6/script") in as 2 arguments in its place.

So, on reflection, I think it's worth saying something about this, and 
I added the following text to the man page:

   NOTES
       When asked to execute a script file, the argv[0] that  is  passed
       to  the  script  interpreter is a string of the form /dev/fd/N or
       /dev/fd/N/P, where N is the number of the file descriptor  passed
       via  the  dirfd argument.  A string of the first form occurs when
       AT_EMPTY_PATH is employed.  A string of the  second  form  occurs
       when the script is specified via both dirfd and pathname; in this
       case, P is the value given in pathname.

Thanks,

Michael


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: David Drysdale <drysdale@google.com>, Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Meredydd Luff <meredydd@senatehouse.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv10 man-pages 5/5] execveat.2: initial man page for execveat(2)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 08:27:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B0E282.7090203@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHse=S88Jy5ZKM_VY5onfvxX7dTMngnxuHfuLeSuzvKvQNP19A@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/09/2015 06:46 PM, David Drysdale wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 04:47:31PM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>> On 11/24/2014 12:53 PM, David Drysdale wrote:
>>>> Signed-off-by: David Drysdale <drysdale@google.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  man2/execveat.2 | 153 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  1 file changed, 153 insertions(+)
>>>>  create mode 100644 man2/execveat.2
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the very nicely prepared man page. I've done
>>> a few very light edits, and will release the version below
>>> with the next man-pages release.
>>>
>>> I have one question. In the message accompanying
>>> commit 51f39a1f0cea1cacf8c787f652f26dfee9611874 you wrote:
>>>
>>>   The filename fed to the executed program as argv[0] (or the name of the
>>>   script fed to a script interpreter) will be of the form "/dev/fd/<fd>"
>>>   (for an empty filename) or "/dev/fd/<fd>/<filename>", effectively
>>>   reflecting how the executable was found.  This does however mean that
>>>   execution of a script in a /proc-less environment won't work; also, script
>>>   execution via an O_CLOEXEC file descriptor fails (as the file will not be
>>>   accessible after exec).
>>>
>>> How does one produce this situation where the execed program sees
>>> argv[0] as a /dev/fd path? (i.e., what would the execveat()
>>> call look like?) I tried to produce this scenario, but could not.
>>
>> I think this is wrong. argv[0] is an arbitrary string provided by the
>> caller and would never be derived from the fd passed.
> 
> Yeah, I think I just wrote that wrong, it's only relevant for scripts.
> As Rich says, for normal binaries argv[0] is just the argv[0] that
> was passed into the execve[at] call.  For a script, the code in
> fs/binfmt_script.c will remove the original argv[0] and put the
> interpreter name and the script filename (e.g. "/bin/sh",
> "/dev/fd/6/script") in as 2 arguments in its place.

So, on reflection, I think it's worth saying something about this, and 
I added the following text to the man page:

   NOTES
       When asked to execute a script file, the argv[0] that  is  passed
       to  the  script  interpreter is a string of the form /dev/fd/N or
       /dev/fd/N/P, where N is the number of the file descriptor  passed
       via  the  dirfd argument.  A string of the first form occurs when
       AT_EMPTY_PATH is employed.  A string of the  second  form  occurs
       when the script is specified via both dirfd and pathname; in this
       case, P is the value given in pathname.

Thanks,

Michael


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-01-10  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-24 11:53 [PATCHv10 0/5] syscalls,x86,sparc: Add execveat() system call David Drysdale
2014-11-24 11:53 ` David Drysdale
2014-11-24 11:53 ` [PATCHv10 1/5] syscalls: implement " David Drysdale
2014-11-24 11:53   ` David Drysdale
2014-11-24 11:53 ` [PATCHv10 2/5] x86: Hook up execveat " David Drysdale
     [not found]   ` <1416830039-21952-3-git-send-email-drysdale-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 12:45     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 12:45       ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 12:45       ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 17:06   ` Dan Carpenter
2014-11-24 17:06     ` Dan Carpenter
2014-11-24 17:06     ` Dan Carpenter
2014-11-24 18:26     ` David Drysdale
2014-11-24 18:26       ` David Drysdale
     [not found]       ` <CAHse=S-DS=NGC619Uhzkbd-EKa0D+HgBq3rE1czmLdoxAFswPg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25 12:16         ` Dan Carpenter
2014-11-25 12:16           ` Dan Carpenter
2014-11-25 12:16           ` Dan Carpenter
2014-11-24 18:53     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 18:53       ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 11:53 ` [PATCHv10 3/5] syscalls: add selftest for execveat(2) David Drysdale
2014-11-24 11:53   ` David Drysdale
2014-11-24 11:53 ` [PATCHv10 4/5] sparc: Hook up execveat system call David Drysdale
2014-11-24 18:36   ` David Miller
2014-11-24 18:36     ` David Miller
2014-11-24 11:53 ` [PATCHv10 man-pages 5/5] execveat.2: initial man page for execveat(2) David Drysdale
2015-01-09 15:47   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-09 15:47     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-09 16:13     ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 16:13       ` Rich Felker
     [not found]       ` <20150109161302.GQ4574-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-09 17:46         ` David Drysdale
2015-01-09 17:46           ` David Drysdale
2015-01-09 17:46           ` David Drysdale
     [not found]           ` <CAHse=S88Jy5ZKM_VY5onfvxX7dTMngnxuHfuLeSuzvKvQNP19A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-09 20:48             ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 20:48               ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 20:48               ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 20:56               ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 20:56                 ` Al Viro
     [not found]                 ` <20150109205626.GK22149-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-09 20:59                   ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 20:59                     ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 20:59                     ` Rich Felker
     [not found]                     ` <20150109205926.GT4574-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-09 21:09                       ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 21:09                         ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 21:09                         ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 21:28                         ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 21:28                           ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 21:50                           ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 21:50                             ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 22:17                             ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 22:17                               ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 22:33                               ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 22:33                                 ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 22:42                                 ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 22:42                                   ` Rich Felker
     [not found]                                   ` <20150109224252.GY4574-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-09 22:57                                     ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 22:57                                       ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 22:57                                       ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 23:12                                       ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 23:12                                         ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 23:24                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-09 23:24                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-09 23:37                                           ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 23:37                                             ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  0:01                                           ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 23:36                                         ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 23:36                                           ` Al Viro
     [not found]                                           ` <20150109233644.GR22149-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-10  3:03                                             ` Al Viro
2015-01-10  3:03                                               ` Al Viro
2015-01-10  3:03                                               ` Al Viro
2015-01-10  3:41                                               ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  3:41                                                 ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  4:14                                                 ` Al Viro
2015-01-10  5:57                                                   ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  5:57                                                     ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10 22:27                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-10 22:27                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-10 22:27                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-11  1:15                                                       ` Rich Felker
2015-01-11  1:15                                                         ` Rich Felker
2015-01-11  2:09                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-11  2:09                                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-11  2:09                                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                           ` <87oaq6oypl.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-11 11:02                                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-01-11 11:02                                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-01-11 11:02                                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-01-12 14:18                             ` David Drysdale
     [not found]                           ` <20150109212852.GU4574-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-09 22:13                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-09 22:13                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-09 22:13                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-09 22:13                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-09 22:38                               ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 22:38                                 ` Rich Felker
     [not found]                                 ` <20150109223843.GX4574-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-10  1:17                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-10  1:17                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-10  1:17                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-10  1:17                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                     ` <87mw5rtowa.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-10  1:33                                       ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  1:33                                         ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  1:33                                         ` Rich Felker
2015-01-12 11:33                                         ` David Drysdale
2015-01-12 16:07                                           ` Rich Felker
2015-01-12 16:07                                             ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  7:13                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-10  7:13                                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-09 21:20                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-09 21:20                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-09 21:20                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                       ` <877fwvy7ln.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-09 21:31                         ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 21:31                           ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 21:31                           ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  7:43             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-10  7:43               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-10  7:43               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-10  8:27           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2015-01-10  8:27             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-10 13:31             ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10 13:31               ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  7:38       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-10  7:38         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-10  7:38         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-09 18:02     ` David Drysdale
2015-01-09 18:02       ` David Drysdale
     [not found]       ` <CAHse=S9kRj00eRbB+7DQd39Cso1O2LcmZpBVCbuUa9EwRQKv_w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-10  7:56         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-10  7:56           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-10  7:56           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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