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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Gregory CLEMENT <gregory.clement@free-electrons.com>
Cc: "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Antoine Ténart" <antoine.tenart@free-electrons.com>,
	"Liam Girdwood" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	"Ezequiel Garcia" <ezequiel.garcia@free-electrons.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	"Boris BREZILLON" <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
	"Jason Cooper" <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Sebastian Hesselbarth" <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Lior Amsalem" <alior@marvell.com>,
	"Tawfik Bayouk" <tawfik@marvell.com>,
	"Nadav Haklai" <nadavh@marvell.com>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] ARM: mvebu: Armada 385 GP: Add regulators to the SATA port
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 20:13:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B962E0.9060504@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150116153451.GA3856@sirena.org.uk>

Hi,

On 16-01-15 16:34, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 03:27:00PM +0100, Gregory CLEMENT wrote:
>> On 16/01/2015 13:37, Mark Brown wrote:
>
>>> regulator-always-on is a bit fuzzy for suspend, if the regulator has
>>> suspend control it'll kick in - it's really about the Linux refcounting
>>> while it's running.  What's more concerning here is that the quick
>>> sample of the regulators flagged as always on like the above that I
>>> looked at in the patch don't seem to have any enable control in the DT
>>> so this will have absolutely no effect.
>
>> Actually the reg_sata[0-4] are controlled by gpio, so there is a mean
>> to enable/disable them. For the reg_5v_sata[0-4] and reg_12v_sata[0-4]
>> they depend on their respective reg_sata and I just propagated the
>> regulator-always-on, this was maybe a mistake.
>
> It certainly makes everything confusing if you have control related
> stuff on regulators that are not directly controllable.
>
>>>> It is probably a good idea to use regulator-boot-on and
>>>> then test things this way, and if that works use
>>>> regulator-boot-on.
>
>>> No, it's unlikely that boot-on makes sense here - it's there for cases
>>> where we can't read back the hardware state at power on.  Generally
>>> drivers should work regardless of the initial state of the regulator
>>> (and modular drivers will actually break if they try to rely on boot-on
>>> since we clean up unused regulators at boot).
>
>> As pointed by Hans my concern here was be sure that during boot the disk
>> are not power off. In this case which property would be accurate?
>
> None, the core won't do anything with the regulator until the end of
> init anyway.

That us simply not true, see my other mail gpio enabled regulators will
be turned off *at register time* unless they have regulator-boot-on set.

Regards,

Hans


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From: hdegoede@redhat.com (Hans de Goede)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 4/4] ARM: mvebu: Armada 385 GP: Add regulators to the SATA port
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 20:13:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B962E0.9060504@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150116153451.GA3856@sirena.org.uk>

Hi,

On 16-01-15 16:34, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 03:27:00PM +0100, Gregory CLEMENT wrote:
>> On 16/01/2015 13:37, Mark Brown wrote:
>
>>> regulator-always-on is a bit fuzzy for suspend, if the regulator has
>>> suspend control it'll kick in - it's really about the Linux refcounting
>>> while it's running.  What's more concerning here is that the quick
>>> sample of the regulators flagged as always on like the above that I
>>> looked at in the patch don't seem to have any enable control in the DT
>>> so this will have absolutely no effect.
>
>> Actually the reg_sata[0-4] are controlled by gpio, so there is a mean
>> to enable/disable them. For the reg_5v_sata[0-4] and reg_12v_sata[0-4]
>> they depend on their respective reg_sata and I just propagated the
>> regulator-always-on, this was maybe a mistake.
>
> It certainly makes everything confusing if you have control related
> stuff on regulators that are not directly controllable.
>
>>>> It is probably a good idea to use regulator-boot-on and
>>>> then test things this way, and if that works use
>>>> regulator-boot-on.
>
>>> No, it's unlikely that boot-on makes sense here - it's there for cases
>>> where we can't read back the hardware state at power on.  Generally
>>> drivers should work regardless of the initial state of the regulator
>>> (and modular drivers will actually break if they try to rely on boot-on
>>> since we clean up unused regulators at boot).
>
>> As pointed by Hans my concern here was be sure that during boot the disk
>> are not power off. In this case which property would be accurate?
>
> None, the core won't do anything with the regulator until the end of
> init anyway.

That us simply not true, see my other mail gpio enabled regulators will
be turned off *at register time* unless they have regulator-boot-on set.

Regards,

Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-16 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-15 14:09 [PATCH v4 0/4] ata: libahci: Allow using a regulator for each port Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-15 14:09 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-15 14:09 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] ata: libahci: Clean-up the ahci_platform_en/disable_phys functions Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-15 14:09   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-15 14:09 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] Documentation: bindings: Add the regulator property to the sub-nodes AHCI bindings Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-15 14:09   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-15 14:09 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] ata: libahci: Allow using multiple regulators Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-15 14:09   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-15 14:09 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] ARM: mvebu: Armada 385 GP: Add regulators to the SATA port Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-15 14:09   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-16  8:17   ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-16  8:17     ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-16  9:27     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-16  9:27       ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-16 10:10       ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-16 10:10         ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-16 12:37         ` Mark Brown
2015-01-16 12:37           ` Mark Brown
2015-01-16 14:27           ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-16 14:27             ` Gregory CLEMENT
     [not found]             ` <54B91FB4.5080707-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-16 15:34               ` Mark Brown
2015-01-16 15:34                 ` Mark Brown
2015-01-16 15:34                 ` Mark Brown
2015-01-16 19:13                 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2015-01-16 19:13                   ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-16 19:44                   ` Mark Brown
2015-01-16 19:44                     ` Mark Brown
2015-01-16 19:12           ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-16 19:12             ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]             ` <54B9629C.9090800-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-16 20:25               ` Mark Brown
2015-01-16 20:25                 ` Mark Brown
2015-01-16 20:25                 ` Mark Brown
2015-01-17  8:48                 ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-17  8:48                   ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                   ` <54BA21F9.5050408-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-17 13:14                     ` Mark Brown
2015-01-17 13:14                       ` Mark Brown
2015-01-17 13:14                       ` Mark Brown
2015-01-17 14:28                       ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-17 14:28                         ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                         ` <54BA7197.40301-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-18 12:35                           ` Mark Brown
2015-01-18 12:35                             ` Mark Brown
2015-01-18 12:35                             ` Mark Brown
2015-01-18 15:29                             ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-18 15:29                               ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-18 19:28                               ` Mark Brown
2015-01-18 19:28                                 ` Mark Brown
     [not found] ` <1421330978-9694-1-git-send-email-gregory.clement-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-16  7:58   ` [PATCH v4 0/4] ata: libahci: Allow using a regulator for each port Hans de Goede
2015-01-16  7:58     ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-16  7:58     ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-19 14:54     ` Tejun Heo
2015-01-19 14:54       ` Tejun Heo
2015-01-19 15:05       ` Andrew Lunn
2015-01-19 15:05         ` Andrew Lunn

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