From: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Cc: oleksandr.dmytryshyn@globallogic.com,
Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: Guidelines for new PV protocol submission
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:20:43 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54BE562B.40601@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54BE4E6A.8010102@citrix.com>
On 20/01/15 12:47, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I should probably have done this earlier because I've been aware of this
> issue for a long time (since I've started dealing with the PV blk protocol).
>
> The current way to describe PV protocols in Xen is very inefficient
> IMHO. Using C structs as "the description" of a binary protocol seems
> very wrong, specially taking into account that different ABIs can
> generate different layouts for the same C struct. This is for example a
> problem in the PV blk protocol, since the binary layout of the
> structures change depending on the bitness.
>
> In order to avoid this, I would like to request that any new PV protocol
> that's added to Xen be described in binary terms, just like it's
> normally done with other protocols. As a reference see for example the
> following section from the TCP RFC:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc793#page-15
>
> I think this is both more easy to understand and removes the bitness
> problem of using C structs.
>
> Then each user of this protocol could define it's own set of structures
> that would map to the binary layout, which should be almost trivial.
> There would be no problem with using __packed or similar gcc'isms as
> each implementation could choose the more convenient way to represent
> this layout internally.
+1
We did this for migration v2 protocol[1] and I agree that this is a much
better way of specifying binary protocols.
David
[1] http://xenbits.xen.org/people/andrewcoop/domain-save-format-F.pdf
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-20 13:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-20 12:47 Guidelines for new PV protocol submission Roger Pau Monné
2015-01-20 13:20 ` David Vrabel [this message]
2015-01-20 13:39 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-01-20 13:48 ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:00 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-01-20 16:32 ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:21 ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-20 16:28 ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-20 13:46 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-05 10:42 ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-09 11:01 ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-02-09 11:11 ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-09 11:59 ` Vitaly Chernooky
2015-02-09 13:15 ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-09 13:45 ` Vitaly Chernooky
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