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From: Stathis Voukelatos <stathis.voukelatos@linn.co.uk>
To: Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@redhat.com>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"abrestic@chromium.org" <abrestic@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: Linn Ethernet Packet Sniffer driver
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:15:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54C7736C.8090704@linn.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54C612A5.2000208@redhat.com>

Hi Daniel,

On 26/01/15 10:10, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
>> Hello Daniel. Thank you for your feedback.
>> Packet sockets could also be used for the driver interface to
>> user space, however I think that both approaches would require the same
>> amount of maintenance. We need to maintain a protocol consisting of
>> a set of messages or commands that user space can use to communicate
>> with the driver in order to configure the H/W and retrieve results.
>> We could use packet sockets to send those messages  too, but I thought
>> netlink already provides a message exchange framework that we could
>> make use of.
>
> When using packet sockets and your driver as a backend feeding them,
> users can see that there's an extra capturing/monitoring netdev present,
> all libpcap-based tools such as tcpdump et al would work out of the box
> w/o adapting any code, and as an admin you can also see what users/tools
> are making of use of the device through packet sockets. I couldn't parse
> the exact motivation from the commit message of why avoiding all this is
> better?
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
>
Just wanted to clarify some implementation details for your approach.
- The driver would need to create and register two net_device instances.
One for sniffing Ethernet TX packets and one for RX.
- Would the control interface for the sniffer in that case need to be
through private socket ioctls (ie SIOCDEVPRIVATE + x ioctl ids)?
- For each ethernet packet that matches the command string the sniffer
returns some data bytes and optionally a timestamp (depending on the
command string). Would a new protocol need to be added in
<linux/if_ether.h> in order to deliver that data to user space through
a packet socket?

Thanks,
Stathis

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-27 11:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-23 10:07 [PATCH] net: Linn Ethernet Packet Sniffer driver Stathis Voukelatos
     [not found] ` <1422007621-13567-1-git-send-email-stathis.voukelatos-zgcZaY4qg+21Qrn1Bg8BZw@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-23 10:21   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-23 10:21     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-26 11:23     ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-26 11:23       ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-23 10:51   ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-23 10:51     ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-26 10:16     ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-27 10:53       ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-23 11:20   ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-01-23 11:20     ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-01-26  9:49     ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-26 10:10       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-01-27 11:15         ` Stathis Voukelatos [this message]
2015-01-27 14:46           ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-01-27 17:22             ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-27 17:22               ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-23 18:12   ` James Hogan
2015-01-23 18:12     ` James Hogan
2015-01-26 11:05     ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-26 11:05       ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-26 11:05       ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-26 22:30   ` Florian Fainelli
2015-01-26 22:30     ` Florian Fainelli
2015-01-27 10:51     ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-27 10:51       ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-24 21:37 ` Joe Perches
2015-01-26 11:11   ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-26 11:11     ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-26 19:39     ` Joe Perches
     [not found]       ` <1422301185.18650.4.camel-6d6DIl74uiNBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-27  9:52         ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-27  9:52           ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-27  9:52           ` Stathis Voukelatos

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