From: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
To: Kevin Cernekee <cernekee@gmail.com>,
robh@kernel.org, grant.likely@linaro.org
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, jslaby@suse.cz, arnd@arndb.de,
f.fainelli@gmail.com, linux-serial@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 3/7] of: Document {little,big,native}-endian bindings
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 08:14:53 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F4624D.6000909@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1416872182-6440-4-git-send-email-cernekee@gmail.com>
On 11/24/2014 06:36 PM, Kevin Cernekee wrote:
> These apply to newly converted drivers, like serial8250/libahci/...
> The examples were adapted from the regmap bindings document.
>
> Signed-off-by: Kevin Cernekee <cernekee@gmail.com>
> ---
> .../devicetree/bindings/common-properties.txt | 60 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 60 insertions(+)
> create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/common-properties.txt
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/common-properties.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/common-properties.txt
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000..21044a4
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/common-properties.txt
> @@ -0,0 +1,60 @@
> +Common properties
> +
> +The ePAPR specification does not define any properties related to hardware
> +byteswapping, but endianness issues show up frequently in porting Linux to
> +different machine types. This document attempts to provide a consistent
> +way of handling byteswapping across drivers.
> +
> +Optional properties:
> + - big-endian: Boolean; force big endian register accesses
> + unconditionally (e.g. ioread32be/iowrite32be). Use this if you
> + know the peripheral always needs to be accessed in BE mode.
> + - little-endian: Boolean; force little endian register accesses
> + unconditionally (e.g. readl/writel). Use this if you know the
> + peripheral always needs to be accessed in LE mode. This is the
> + default.
There is a fundamental problem with specifying the default in DT bindings.
How can drivers which are currently native-endian support big-endian?
If the driver is converted to support big-endian, every previous
devicetree will be invalid with the new kernel (because those devicetrees
don't specify 'native-endian').
IOW, consider if the default were 'native-endian'. How would the 8250
driver support existing devicetrees?
Regards,
Peter Hurley
> + - native-endian: Boolean; always use register accesses matched to the
> + endianness of the kernel binary (e.g. LE vmlinux -> readl/writel,
> + BE vmlinux -> ioread32be/iowrite32be). In this case no byteswaps
> + will ever be performed. Use this if the hardware "self-adjusts"
> + register endianness based on the CPU's configured endianness.
> +
> +Note that regmap, in contrast, defaults to native-endian. But this
> +document is targeted for existing drivers, most of which currently use
> +readl/writel because they expect to be accessing PCI/PCIe devices rather
> +than memory-mapped SoC peripherals. Since the readl/writel accessors
> +perform a byteswap on BE systems, this means that the drivers in question
> +are implicitly "little-endian".
> +
> +Examples:
> +Scenario 1 : CPU in LE mode & device in LE mode.
> +dev: dev@40031000 {
> + compatible = "name";
> + reg = <0x40031000 0x1000>;
> + ...
> + native-endian;
> +};
> +
> +Scenario 2 : CPU in LE mode & device in BE mode.
> +dev: dev@40031000 {
> + compatible = "name";
> + reg = <0x40031000 0x1000>;
> + ...
> + big-endian;
> +};
> +
> +Scenario 3 : CPU in BE mode & device in BE mode.
> +dev: dev@40031000 {
> + compatible = "name";
> + reg = <0x40031000 0x1000>;
> + ...
> + native-endian;
> +};
> +
> +Scenario 4 : CPU in BE mode & device in LE mode.
> +dev: dev@40031000 {
> + compatible = "name";
> + reg = <0x40031000 0x1000>;
> + ...
> + little-endian;
> +};
>
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From: Peter Hurley <peter-WaGBZJeGNqdsbIuE7sb01tBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Kevin Cernekee <cernekee-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
grant.likely-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
Cc: gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
jslaby-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org,
arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org,
f.fainelli-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
linux-serial-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-mips-6z/3iImG2C8G8FEW9MqTrA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 3/7] of: Document {little,big,native}-endian bindings
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 08:14:53 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F4624D.6000909@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1416872182-6440-4-git-send-email-cernekee-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
On 11/24/2014 06:36 PM, Kevin Cernekee wrote:
> These apply to newly converted drivers, like serial8250/libahci/...
> The examples were adapted from the regmap bindings document.
>
> Signed-off-by: Kevin Cernekee <cernekee-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> ---
> .../devicetree/bindings/common-properties.txt | 60 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 60 insertions(+)
> create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/common-properties.txt
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/common-properties.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/common-properties.txt
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000..21044a4
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/common-properties.txt
> @@ -0,0 +1,60 @@
> +Common properties
> +
> +The ePAPR specification does not define any properties related to hardware
> +byteswapping, but endianness issues show up frequently in porting Linux to
> +different machine types. This document attempts to provide a consistent
> +way of handling byteswapping across drivers.
> +
> +Optional properties:
> + - big-endian: Boolean; force big endian register accesses
> + unconditionally (e.g. ioread32be/iowrite32be). Use this if you
> + know the peripheral always needs to be accessed in BE mode.
> + - little-endian: Boolean; force little endian register accesses
> + unconditionally (e.g. readl/writel). Use this if you know the
> + peripheral always needs to be accessed in LE mode. This is the
> + default.
There is a fundamental problem with specifying the default in DT bindings.
How can drivers which are currently native-endian support big-endian?
If the driver is converted to support big-endian, every previous
devicetree will be invalid with the new kernel (because those devicetrees
don't specify 'native-endian').
IOW, consider if the default were 'native-endian'. How would the 8250
driver support existing devicetrees?
Regards,
Peter Hurley
> + - native-endian: Boolean; always use register accesses matched to the
> + endianness of the kernel binary (e.g. LE vmlinux -> readl/writel,
> + BE vmlinux -> ioread32be/iowrite32be). In this case no byteswaps
> + will ever be performed. Use this if the hardware "self-adjusts"
> + register endianness based on the CPU's configured endianness.
> +
> +Note that regmap, in contrast, defaults to native-endian. But this
> +document is targeted for existing drivers, most of which currently use
> +readl/writel because they expect to be accessing PCI/PCIe devices rather
> +than memory-mapped SoC peripherals. Since the readl/writel accessors
> +perform a byteswap on BE systems, this means that the drivers in question
> +are implicitly "little-endian".
> +
> +Examples:
> +Scenario 1 : CPU in LE mode & device in LE mode.
> +dev: dev@40031000 {
> + compatible = "name";
> + reg = <0x40031000 0x1000>;
> + ...
> + native-endian;
> +};
> +
> +Scenario 2 : CPU in LE mode & device in BE mode.
> +dev: dev@40031000 {
> + compatible = "name";
> + reg = <0x40031000 0x1000>;
> + ...
> + big-endian;
> +};
> +
> +Scenario 3 : CPU in BE mode & device in BE mode.
> +dev: dev@40031000 {
> + compatible = "name";
> + reg = <0x40031000 0x1000>;
> + ...
> + native-endian;
> +};
> +
> +Scenario 4 : CPU in BE mode & device in LE mode.
> +dev: dev@40031000 {
> + compatible = "name";
> + reg = <0x40031000 0x1000>;
> + ...
> + little-endian;
> +};
>
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-24 23:36 [PATCH V3 0/7] serial: Configure {big,native}-endian MMIO accesses via DT Kevin Cernekee
2014-11-24 23:36 ` [PATCH V3 1/7] of: Add helper function to check MMIO register endianness Kevin Cernekee
2014-11-24 23:36 ` [PATCH V3 2/7] of/fdt: Add endianness helper function for early init code Kevin Cernekee
2014-11-24 23:36 ` [PATCH V3 3/7] of: Document {little,big,native}-endian bindings Kevin Cernekee
2015-03-02 13:14 ` Peter Hurley [this message]
2015-03-02 13:14 ` Peter Hurley
2015-03-02 14:56 ` Kevin Cernekee
2015-03-02 14:56 ` Kevin Cernekee
2015-03-02 16:08 ` Peter Hurley
2015-03-02 16:08 ` Peter Hurley
2015-03-02 16:28 ` Kevin Cernekee
2015-03-02 16:28 ` Kevin Cernekee
2015-03-02 17:45 ` Peter Hurley
2015-03-02 17:45 ` Peter Hurley
2015-03-02 18:57 ` Kevin Cernekee
2015-03-02 18:57 ` Kevin Cernekee
2015-03-20 23:48 ` Grant Likely
2015-03-20 23:48 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-24 23:36 ` [PATCH V3 4/7] serial: core: Add big-endian iotype Kevin Cernekee
2014-11-24 23:36 ` [PATCH V3 5/7] serial: earlycon: Set UPIO_MEM32BE based on DT properties Kevin Cernekee
2014-11-24 23:36 ` Kevin Cernekee
2015-03-01 22:23 ` Peter Hurley
2015-03-01 22:23 ` Peter Hurley
2015-03-28 1:36 ` Grant Likely
2015-03-28 1:36 ` Grant Likely
2015-03-28 17:01 ` Peter Hurley
2015-03-28 17:01 ` Peter Hurley
2015-03-28 19:28 ` Kevin Cernekee
2015-03-28 19:28 ` Kevin Cernekee
2015-04-02 15:36 ` Peter Hurley
2015-04-02 15:36 ` Peter Hurley
2015-04-08 17:56 ` Peter Hurley
2015-04-08 17:56 ` Peter Hurley
2015-04-02 16:15 ` Peter Hurley
2015-04-02 16:15 ` Peter Hurley
2015-04-02 13:32 ` Grant Likely
2015-04-02 13:32 ` Grant Likely
2015-04-02 15:33 ` Peter Hurley
2015-04-02 15:33 ` Peter Hurley
2015-04-02 13:46 ` Rob Herring
2015-04-02 13:46 ` Rob Herring
2015-04-02 15:35 ` Peter Hurley
2015-04-02 15:35 ` Peter Hurley
2015-04-06 17:36 ` Peter Hurley
2015-04-06 17:36 ` Peter Hurley
2015-04-06 21:07 ` Rob Herring
2015-04-06 21:07 ` Rob Herring
2014-11-24 23:36 ` [PATCH V3 6/7] serial: of_serial: Support big-endian register accesses Kevin Cernekee
2014-11-24 23:36 ` [PATCH V3 7/7] serial: 8250: Add support for big-endian MMIO accesses Kevin Cernekee
2014-11-24 23:55 ` [PATCH V3 0/7] serial: Configure {big,native}-endian MMIO accesses via DT Florian Fainelli
2014-11-25 10:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-25 15:10 ` Grant Likely
2014-11-25 17:38 ` Greg KH
2014-11-25 21:11 ` Greg KH
2014-11-26 13:14 ` Grant Likely
2015-02-21 20:53 ` Kevin Cernekee
2015-02-21 20:53 ` Kevin Cernekee
2015-02-21 22:18 ` Rob Herring
2015-02-21 22:18 ` Rob Herring
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