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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Roland Dreier <roland@kernel.org>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	Mike Marciniszyn <infinipath@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Resurrecting the VM_PINNED discussion
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 23:05:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F6303C.5080806@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150303215258.GB6995@akamai.com>

On 03/03/2015 10:52 PM, Eric B Munson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Mar 2015, Eric B Munson wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 03 Mar 2015, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> 
>> > On 03/03/2015 07:45 PM, Eric B Munson wrote:
>> > > On Tue, 03 Mar 2015, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > Agreed.  But as has been discussed in the threads around the VM_PINNED
>> > > work, there are people that are relying on the fact that VM_LOCKED
>> > > promises no minor faults.  Which is why the behavoir has remained.
>> > 
>> > At least in the VM_PINNED thread after last lsf/mm, I don't see this mentioned.
>> > I found no references to mlocking in compaction.c, and in migrate.c there's just
>> > mlock_migrate_page() with comment:
>> > 
>> > /*
>> >  * mlock_migrate_page - called only from migrate_page_copy() to
>> >  * migrate the Mlocked page flag; update statistics.
>> >  */
>> > 
>> > It also passes TTU_IGNORE_MLOCK to try_to_unmap(). So what am I missing? Where
>> > is this restriction?
>> > 
>> 
>> I spent quite some time looking for it as well, it is in vmscan.c
>> 
>> int __isolate_lru_page(struct page *page, isolate_mode_t mode)
>> {
>> ...
>>         /* Compaction should not handle unevictable pages but CMA can do so */
>>         if (PageUnevictable(page) && !(mode & ISOLATE_UNEVICTABLE))
>>                 return ret;
>> ...
>> 
>> 
> 
> And that demonstrates that I haven't spent enough time with this code,
> that isn't the restriction because when this is called from compaction.c
> the mode is set to ISOLATE_UNEVICTABLE.  So back to reading the code.

No, you were correct and thanks for the hint. It's only ISOLATE_UNEVICTABLE from
isolate_migratepages_range(), which is CMA, not regular compaction.
But I wonder, can we change this even after VM_PINNED is introduced, if existing
code depends on "no minor faults in mlocked areas", whatever the docs say? On
the other hand, compaction is not the only source of migrations. I wonder what
the NUMA balancing does (not) about mlocked areas...

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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Roland Dreier <roland@kernel.org>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	Mike Marciniszyn <infinipath@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Resurrecting the VM_PINNED discussion
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 23:05:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F6303C.5080806@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150303215258.GB6995@akamai.com>

On 03/03/2015 10:52 PM, Eric B Munson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Mar 2015, Eric B Munson wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 03 Mar 2015, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> 
>> > On 03/03/2015 07:45 PM, Eric B Munson wrote:
>> > > On Tue, 03 Mar 2015, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > Agreed.  But as has been discussed in the threads around the VM_PINNED
>> > > work, there are people that are relying on the fact that VM_LOCKED
>> > > promises no minor faults.  Which is why the behavoir has remained.
>> > 
>> > At least in the VM_PINNED thread after last lsf/mm, I don't see this mentioned.
>> > I found no references to mlocking in compaction.c, and in migrate.c there's just
>> > mlock_migrate_page() with comment:
>> > 
>> > /*
>> >  * mlock_migrate_page - called only from migrate_page_copy() to
>> >  * migrate the Mlocked page flag; update statistics.
>> >  */
>> > 
>> > It also passes TTU_IGNORE_MLOCK to try_to_unmap(). So what am I missing? Where
>> > is this restriction?
>> > 
>> 
>> I spent quite some time looking for it as well, it is in vmscan.c
>> 
>> int __isolate_lru_page(struct page *page, isolate_mode_t mode)
>> {
>> ...
>>         /* Compaction should not handle unevictable pages but CMA can do so */
>>         if (PageUnevictable(page) && !(mode & ISOLATE_UNEVICTABLE))
>>                 return ret;
>> ...
>> 
>> 
> 
> And that demonstrates that I haven't spent enough time with this code,
> that isn't the restriction because when this is called from compaction.c
> the mode is set to ISOLATE_UNEVICTABLE.  So back to reading the code.

No, you were correct and thanks for the hint. It's only ISOLATE_UNEVICTABLE from
isolate_migratepages_range(), which is CMA, not regular compaction.
But I wonder, can we change this even after VM_PINNED is introduced, if existing
code depends on "no minor faults in mlocked areas", whatever the docs say? On
the other hand, compaction is not the only source of migrations. I wonder what
the NUMA balancing does (not) about mlocked areas...

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-03 22:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-03 17:41 Resurrecting the VM_PINNED discussion Eric B Munson
2015-03-03 18:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-03 18:35   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-03 18:45   ` Eric B Munson
2015-03-03 19:51     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-03 19:51       ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-03 20:20     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-03 20:20       ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-03 20:22       ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-03 20:22         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-03 21:01       ` Eric B Munson
2015-03-03 21:52         ` Eric B Munson
2015-03-03 22:05           ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2015-03-03 22:05             ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-04 14:45             ` Eric B Munson
2015-03-03 19:13   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-03 19:13     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-05 20:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-05 20:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-05 21:09   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-05 21:09     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-05 21:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-05 21:13       ` Peter Zijlstra

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