From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>
Cc: xenomai@xenomai.org
Subject: Re: [Xenomai] ARMv8 (ARM64) port of Xenomai
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:40:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55117747.6040807@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150323152540.GC5299@hermes.click-hack.org>
On 2015-03-23 16:25, Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 03:00:15PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> There is a trend in industry towards virtual targets. That's because you
>> can do much more (and much earlier) with emulation than with real hw,
>> and handling is much easier (no wiring, no physical reset, free
>> replication of setups etc.).
>
> Being a trend does not mean this is a good idea. I still believe a
> lot of people using JTAG or gdb tend to see symptoms rather than
> real issue and misinterpret them.
Yeah, real developers don't use debuggers or similar tools. Linus made a
similar statement some decade ago. He was wrong with this generalization
as well - one reason why we have kgdb upstream now. Debugging done right
is interactive code reading and model checking.
Jan
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-20 16:45 [Xenomai] ARMv8 (ARM64) port of Xenomai Hongfei Cheng
2015-03-20 18:13 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2015-03-21 0:06 ` Hongfei Cheng
2015-03-21 13:11 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2015-03-21 13:21 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2015-03-23 6:01 ` Hongfei Cheng
2015-03-23 9:03 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-03-23 9:53 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2015-03-23 14:00 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-03-23 15:25 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2015-03-24 14:40 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2015-03-24 15:27 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2015-04-02 8:12 ` Hongfei Cheng
2015-04-02 9:04 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2015-04-02 17:56 ` Hongfei Cheng
2015-03-23 11:50 ` Jorge Ramirez Ortiz
2015-03-23 5:56 ` Hongfei Cheng
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-03-26 22:58 Don Mahurin
2015-03-26 23:05 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2015-03-26 23:29 ` Don Mahurin
2015-03-27 0:13 ` Lennart Sorensen
2015-03-27 7:55 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2015-02-16 20:15 Gary Gitelson
2015-02-16 20:44 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
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