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From: Michael Wang <yun.wang@profitbricks.com>
To: "ira.weiny" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/17] IB/Verbs: Implement new callback query_transport() for each HW
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:25:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <552788F1.4070301@profitbricks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150410061610.GA26288@phlsvsds.ph.intel.com>

On 04/10/2015 08:16 AM, ira.weiny wrote:
> First off there are 2 separate issues here:
> 
> 1) We need to communicate if a port supports or requires various management
>    support from the ib_mad, ib_cm, and/or ib_sa modules.
> 
> 2) We need to communicate how a addresses are formated and resolved for a
>    particular port
> 
> 
> In general I don't think we need to remove all uses of the Transport
> or Link Layer.
> 
> Although we may be able to remove most of the transport uses.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 02:10:15PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
[snip]
> 
>>
>> Some of the other checks in this file revolve around pkey, I'm not
>> sure what rocee does there? cap_pkey_supported ?
> 
> It seems IBoE just hardcodes the pkey to 0xffff.  I don't see it used anywhere.
> 
> Function where port requires "real" PKey
> 
> 	-- cma.c: cma_ib_init_qp_attr
> 
> Check rdma_port_req_pkey()?

What about cap_eth_ah() for all the cases need eth addressing handling?

> 
> 
> Over all for the addressing choices:
> 
> The "Transport" (or protocol, or whatever) is Verbs.  The Layer below Verbs
> (OPA/IB/Eth/TCP) defines how addressing, route, and connection information is
> generated, communicated, and used.
> 
> As Jason and Doug have been saying sometimes we want to know when that requires
> SA interaction or the use of the CM protocol (or neither).  Other times we just
> need to know what the Address format or Link Layer is.

Till now it seems like we could be able to eliminate the link layer helper in core
layer, but I'll reserve that helper in next version, if later we do not need it anymore,
let's erase it then ;-)

Regards,
Michael Wang

> 
> 
> Ira
> 

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From: Michael Wang <yun.wang@profitbricks.com>
To: "ira.weiny" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Roland Dreier <roland@kernel.org>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	Tom Tucker <tom@opengridcomputing.com>,
	Steve Wise <swise@opengridcomputing.com>,
	Hoang-Nam Nguyen <hnguyen@de.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Raisch <raisch@de.ibm.com>,
	Mike Marciniszyn <infinipath@intel.com>,
	Eli Cohen <eli@mellanox.com>,
	Faisal Latif <faisal.latif@intel.com>,
	Upinder Malhi <umalhi@cisco.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	PJ Waskiewicz <pj.waskiewicz@solidfire.com>,
	Tatyana Nikolova <Tatyana.E.Nikolova@intel.com>,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
	Jack Morgenstein <jackm@dev.mellanox.co.il>,
	Haggai
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/17] IB/Verbs: Implement new callback query_transport() for each HW
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:25:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <552788F1.4070301@profitbricks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150410061610.GA26288@phlsvsds.ph.intel.com>

On 04/10/2015 08:16 AM, ira.weiny wrote:
> First off there are 2 separate issues here:
> 
> 1) We need to communicate if a port supports or requires various management
>    support from the ib_mad, ib_cm, and/or ib_sa modules.
> 
> 2) We need to communicate how a addresses are formated and resolved for a
>    particular port
> 
> 
> In general I don't think we need to remove all uses of the Transport
> or Link Layer.
> 
> Although we may be able to remove most of the transport uses.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 02:10:15PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
[snip]
> 
>>
>> Some of the other checks in this file revolve around pkey, I'm not
>> sure what rocee does there? cap_pkey_supported ?
> 
> It seems IBoE just hardcodes the pkey to 0xffff.  I don't see it used anywhere.
> 
> Function where port requires "real" PKey
> 
> 	-- cma.c: cma_ib_init_qp_attr
> 
> Check rdma_port_req_pkey()?

What about cap_eth_ah() for all the cases need eth addressing handling?

> 
> 
> Over all for the addressing choices:
> 
> The "Transport" (or protocol, or whatever) is Verbs.  The Layer below Verbs
> (OPA/IB/Eth/TCP) defines how addressing, route, and connection information is
> generated, communicated, and used.
> 
> As Jason and Doug have been saying sometimes we want to know when that requires
> SA interaction or the use of the CM protocol (or neither).  Other times we just
> need to know what the Address format or Link Layer is.

Till now it seems like we could be able to eliminate the link layer helper in core
layer, but I'll reserve that helper in next version, if later we do not need it anymore,
let's erase it then ;-)

Regards,
Michael Wang

> 
> 
> Ira
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-10  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 247+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-07 12:25 [PATCH v2 00/17] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:25 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:25 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:28 ` [PATCH 01/17] IB/Verbs: Implement new callback query_transport() for each HW Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:28   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:28   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:44   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:44     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:44     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:29 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] IB/Verbs: Implement raw management helpers Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:29   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:29   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 21:25   ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 21:25     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 21:25     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 21:25     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-08  8:41     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  8:41       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  8:41       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:30 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mad() for mad-check Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:30   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:30   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 17:26   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-07 17:26     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-07 17:26     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-08  8:13     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  8:13       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  8:13       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:31 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_smi() for smi-check Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:31   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:31   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:32 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_cm() for cm-check Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:32   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:32   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:32 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_sa() for sa-check Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:32   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:32   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:33 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mcast() for mcast-check Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:33   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:33   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:34 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ipoib() for ipoib-check Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:34   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:34   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:34 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] IB/Verbs: Use helper cap_read_multi_sge() and reform svc_rdma_accept() Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:34   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:34   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 15:46   ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-07 15:46     ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-07 15:46     ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-07 16:05     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 16:05       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 16:05       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 17:42     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-07 17:42       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-07 17:42       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-08  8:51       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  8:51         ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:35 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] IB/Verbs: Adopt management helpers for IB helpers Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:35   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:35   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 18:40   ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 18:40     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 18:40     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 18:40     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-08  8:24     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  8:24       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  8:24       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 20:12   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-07 20:12     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-07 20:12     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-07 20:16     ` Steve Wise
2015-04-07 20:16       ` Steve Wise
2015-04-07 20:16       ` Steve Wise
2015-04-08  8:28       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  8:28         ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  8:28         ` Michael Wang
2015-04-09  5:36       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-09  5:36         ` ira.weiny
2015-04-07 20:18     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 20:18       ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 20:18       ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 12:36 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] IB/Verbs: Reform link_layer_show() and ib_uverbs_query_port() Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:36   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:36   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 18:49   ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 18:49     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 18:49     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 18:49     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 18:56     ` Steve Wise
2015-04-07 18:56       ` Steve Wise
2015-04-07 18:56       ` Steve Wise
2015-04-08  8:29     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  8:29       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  8:29       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:36 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_cm_dev() for cm-device-check Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:36   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:36   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:37 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] IB/Verbs: Reform cma/ucma with management helpers Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:37   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:37   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 21:11   ` Steve Wise
2015-04-07 21:11     ` Steve Wise
2015-04-07 21:11     ` Steve Wise
2015-04-08  8:39     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  8:39       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 21:36   ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 21:36     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 21:36     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-07 21:36     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-08  9:37     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  9:37       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08  9:37       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08 17:02       ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-08 17:02         ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-08 17:02         ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-08 17:02         ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-09  8:05         ` Michael Wang
2015-04-09  8:05           ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:38 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] IB/Verbs: Reserve legacy transport type for 'struct rdma_dev_addr' Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:38   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:38   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:38 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] IB/Verbs: Reform cma_acquire_dev() with management helpers Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:38   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:38   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] IB/Verbs: Cleanup rdma_node_get_transport() Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:39   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:39   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] IB/Verbs: Move rdma_port_get_link_layer() to mlx4 head file Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:39   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:39   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:42 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] IB/Verbs: Implement new callback query_transport() for each HW Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:42   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-07 12:42   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08 18:29   ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-08 18:29     ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-08 18:29     ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-08 18:41     ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-08 18:41       ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-08 18:41       ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-08 18:41       ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-08 19:35       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-08 19:35         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-08 19:35         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-08 20:10     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-08 20:10       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-08 20:10       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-08 20:55       ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-08 20:55         ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-08 20:55         ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-09  9:45       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-09  9:45         ` Michael Wang
2015-04-09  9:45         ` Michael Wang
2015-04-09 12:42       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-09 12:42         ` Michael Wang
2015-04-09 12:42         ` Michael Wang
2015-04-09 16:00         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-09 16:00           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-09 16:00           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-10  8:19           ` Michael Wang
2015-04-10  8:19             ` Michael Wang
2015-04-10  8:19             ` Michael Wang
2015-04-09 14:34       ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-09 14:34         ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-09 14:34         ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-09 16:01         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-09 16:01           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-09 16:01           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-09 21:19           ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-09 21:19             ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-09 21:19             ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-09 21:36             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-09 21:36               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-09 21:36               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-10  7:46             ` Michael Wang
2015-04-10  7:46               ` Michael Wang
2015-04-10  7:46               ` Michael Wang
2015-04-10 16:48               ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-10 16:48                 ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-10  6:16       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10  6:16         ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10  6:16         ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10  8:25         ` Michael Wang [this message]
2015-04-10  8:25           ` Michael Wang
2015-04-10 14:56           ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 14:56             ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 14:56             ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 16:15         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-10 16:15           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-10 16:15           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-10 17:38           ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 17:38             ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 17:38             ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 17:49             ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-10 17:49               ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-10 17:49               ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-10 18:11               ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 18:11                 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 18:11                 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 18:04             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-10 18:04               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-10 18:04               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-10 18:24               ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-10 18:24                 ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-10 18:24                 ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-10 19:17                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-10 19:17                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-10 19:17                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-10 21:06                   ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 21:06                     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 21:06                     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-11  0:01                     ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-11  0:01                       ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-11  0:01                       ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-10 20:38               ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 20:38                 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 20:38                 ` ira.weiny
     [not found]     ` <1428517786.2980.180.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-09  9:34       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-09  9:34         ` Michael Wang
2015-04-10  7:48     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10  7:48       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10  7:48       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-10 17:10       ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-10 17:10         ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-10 17:10         ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-10 17:36         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-10 17:36           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-10 17:36           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-13  7:40           ` Michael Wang
2015-04-13  7:40             ` Michael Wang
2015-04-10 17:50         ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-10 17:50           ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-10 17:50           ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-10 18:17           ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-10 18:17             ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-10 18:17             ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-08 11:38 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers Tom Talpey
2015-04-08 11:38   ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-08 11:38   ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-08 12:41   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08 12:41     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08 12:41     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08 15:51     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-08 15:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-08 15:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-08 16:05       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08 16:05         ` Michael Wang
2015-04-08 16:05         ` Michael Wang

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