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From: Bert Vermeulen <bert@biot.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: ralf@linux-mips.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org,
	andy.shevchenko@gmail.com, jogo@openwrt.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] spi: Add SPI driver for Mikrotik RB4xx series boards
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 17:31:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5527ECC3.1000209@biot.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150409215047.GE6023@sirena.org.uk>

On 04/09/2015 11:50 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 11:31:12PM +0200, Bert Vermeulen wrote:
>>  The m25p80-compatible boot flash and (some models) MMC use regular SPI,
>>  bitbanged as required by the SoC. However the SPI-connected CPLD has
>>  a "fast write" mode, in which two bits are transferred by SPI clock
>>  cycle. The second bit is transmitted with the SoC's CS2 pin.
> 
>>  Protocol drivers using this fast write facility signal this by setting
>>  the cs_change flag on transfers.
> 
>> The cs_change flag is used here instead of the openwrt version's
>> spi_transfer.fast_write flag. The CPLD driver sets this flag on a
>> per-transfer basis.
> 
> No, this is broken - it's abusing a standard API in a way that's
> completly incompatible with the meaning of that API which is obviously a
> very bad idea, especially since good practice is to offload the
> implementation of that standard API to the core.  It *sounds* like
> you're just trying to implement two wire mode which does have a standard
> API, please use that.

Can you please advise what kind of solution would be acceptable then? I need
to signal from an SPI protocol driver to an SPI master on a per-transfer basis.

Adding a flag to struct spi_transfer for this one driver, as openwrt does,
seems stupid -- I agree. And sure, using spi_transfer.cs_change is a little
dodgy. But I don't see a standard way to do it otherwise, and I don't really
want to keep trying things until you approve of one. So tell me how you
would do it, and I'll implement it that way. I just want to get this code in.

Also, I have no idea what you mean by two-wire mode. This "fast mode" is SPI
+ one extra pin.


-- 
Bert Vermeulen        bert@biot.com          email/xmpp

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From: Bert Vermeulen <bert-Nh2F35Ii2RQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: ralf-6z/3iImG2C8G8FEW9MqTrA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mips-6z/3iImG2C8G8FEW9MqTrA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	andy.shevchenko-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	jogo-p3rKhJxN3npAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] spi: Add SPI driver for Mikrotik RB4xx series boards
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 17:31:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5527ECC3.1000209@biot.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150409215047.GE6023-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>

On 04/09/2015 11:50 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 11:31:12PM +0200, Bert Vermeulen wrote:
>>  The m25p80-compatible boot flash and (some models) MMC use regular SPI,
>>  bitbanged as required by the SoC. However the SPI-connected CPLD has
>>  a "fast write" mode, in which two bits are transferred by SPI clock
>>  cycle. The second bit is transmitted with the SoC's CS2 pin.
> 
>>  Protocol drivers using this fast write facility signal this by setting
>>  the cs_change flag on transfers.
> 
>> The cs_change flag is used here instead of the openwrt version's
>> spi_transfer.fast_write flag. The CPLD driver sets this flag on a
>> per-transfer basis.
> 
> No, this is broken - it's abusing a standard API in a way that's
> completly incompatible with the meaning of that API which is obviously a
> very bad idea, especially since good practice is to offload the
> implementation of that standard API to the core.  It *sounds* like
> you're just trying to implement two wire mode which does have a standard
> API, please use that.

Can you please advise what kind of solution would be acceptable then? I need
to signal from an SPI protocol driver to an SPI master on a per-transfer basis.

Adding a flag to struct spi_transfer for this one driver, as openwrt does,
seems stupid -- I agree. And sure, using spi_transfer.cs_change is a little
dodgy. But I don't see a standard way to do it otherwise, and I don't really
want to keep trying things until you approve of one. So tell me how you
would do it, and I'll implement it that way. I just want to get this code in.

Also, I have no idea what you mean by two-wire mode. This "fast mode" is SPI
+ one extra pin.


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-10 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-06  1:54 [PATCH v6] spi: Add SPI driver for Mikrotik RB4xx series boards Bert Vermeulen
2015-04-06  1:54 ` Bert Vermeulen
2015-04-06  9:56 ` Andy Shevchenko
2015-04-06 16:39 ` Mark Brown
2015-04-06 16:39   ` Mark Brown
2015-04-09 21:31   ` Bert Vermeulen
2015-04-09 21:31     ` Bert Vermeulen
2015-04-09 21:50     ` Mark Brown
2015-04-10 15:31       ` Bert Vermeulen [this message]
2015-04-10 15:31         ` Bert Vermeulen
2015-04-10 15:45         ` Mark Brown
2015-04-10 15:45           ` Mark Brown

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