[U-Boot] U-Boot Mini Summit

[U-Boot] U-Boot Mini Summit

[Detlev Zundel]

Hi,

the agenda for the U-Boot Mini Summit in a few days in D?sseldorf has
now been finalized[1].  It is very encouraging to see such a lot of
high-class content and I'm very excited to also meet a lot of new
people.

Please note that we would like to have as many custodians present as
possible at 11:15 so that we can have a short round of introductions.
I'm sure it will be a very pleasant experience to match names with faces
known only from the mailing list so far :)

Also note that the agenda allows everybody to attend Toms talk
"Redundant booting with U-Boot" at 16:30[2] and of course it has no
chance to collide with Mareks talk "Secure and flexible boot with
U-Boot" on Wednesday at 15:30[2].

Thanks for all the input so far and I'm looking forward to seeing you
all in a few days!
  Detlev

[1] http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot/MiniSummitELCE2014
[2] http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference-europe/program/schedule

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[U-Boot] U-Boot Mini Summit

[Albert ARIBAUD]

Hi Detlev,

On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 19:09:07 +0200, Detlev Zundel <dzu@denx.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> the agenda for the U-Boot Mini Summit in a few days in D?sseldorf has
> now been finalized[1].  It is very encouraging to see such a lot of
> high-class content and I'm very excited to also meet a lot of new
> people.
> 
> Please note that we would like to have as many custodians present as
> possible at 11:15 so that we can have a short round of introductions.
> I'm sure it will be a very pleasant experience to match names with faces
> known only from the mailing list so far :)

I would have liked to attend, but for personal reasons could not free
myself up. Is there any possibility of a Google Hangout or anything
similar?

> Also note that the agenda allows everybody to attend Toms talk
> "Redundant booting with U-Boot" at 16:30[2] and of course it has no
> chance to collide with Mareks talk "Secure and flexible boot with
> U-Boot" on Wednesday at 15:30[2].
> 
> Thanks for all the input so far and I'm looking forward to seeing you
> all in a few days!
>   Detlev
> 
> [1] http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot/MiniSummitELCE2014
> [2] http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference-europe/program/schedule

Amicalement,
-- 
Albert.

[U-Boot] U-Boot Mini Summit

[Masahiro YAMADA]

Hi Detlev,

2014-10-03 2:09 GMT+09:00 Detlev Zundel <dzu@denx.de>:
> Hi,
>
> the agenda for the U-Boot Mini Summit in a few days in D?sseldorf has
> now been finalized[1].  It is very encouraging to see such a lot of
> high-class content and I'm very excited to also meet a lot of new
> people.
>
> Please note that we would like to have as many custodians present as
> possible at 11:15 so that we can have a short round of introductions.
> I'm sure it will be a very pleasant experience to match names with faces
> known only from the mailing list so far :)
>
> Also note that the agenda allows everybody to attend Toms talk
> "Redundant booting with U-Boot" at 16:30[2] and of course it has no
> chance to collide with Mareks talk "Secure and flexible boot with
> U-Boot" on Wednesday at 15:30[2].
>
> Thanks for all the input so far and I'm looking forward to seeing you
> all in a few days!
>   Detlev
>
> [1] http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot/MiniSummitELCE2014
> [2] http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference-europe/program/schedule


Perhaps, is it better to insert 5-minute break between talks?
Speakers might need to get something prepared. (connecting their
laptop to the beamer, etc.)


-- 
Best Regards
Masahiro Yamada

[U-Boot] U-Boot Mini Summit

[Michael Trimarchi]

Hi

Il 02/ott/2014 23:07 "Albert ARIBAUD" <albert.u.boot@aribaud.net> ha
scritto:
>
> Hi Detlev,
>
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 19:09:07 +0200, Detlev Zundel <dzu@denx.de> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > the agenda for the U-Boot Mini Summit in a few days in D?sseldorf has
> > now been finalized[1].  It is very encouraging to see such a lot of
> > high-class content and I'm very excited to also meet a lot of new
> > people.
> >
> > Please note that we would like to have as many custodians present as
> > possible at 11:15 so that we can have a short round of introductions.
> > I'm sure it will be a very pleasant experience to match names with faces
> > known only from the mailing list so far :)
>
> I would have liked to attend, but for personal reasons could not free
> myself up. Is there any possibility of a Google Hangout or anything
> similar?
>

Well I'm not active so much on mailing list but I have the same question

Michael

> > Also note that the agenda allows everybody to attend Toms talk
> > "Redundant booting with U-Boot" at 16:30[2] and of course it has no
> > chance to collide with Mareks talk "Secure and flexible boot with
> > U-Boot" on Wednesday at 15:30[2].
> >
> > Thanks for all the input so far and I'm looking forward to seeing you
> > all in a few days!
> >   Detlev
> >
> > [1] http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot/MiniSummitELCE2014
> > [2]
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference-europe/program/schedule
>
> Amicalement,
> --
> Albert.
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[U-Boot] U-Boot Mini Summit

[Detlev Zundel]

Hi Albert,

[...]

> I would have liked to attend, but for personal reasons could not free
> myself up.

That's of course unfortunate.

> Is there any possibility of a Google Hangout or anything similar?

To be honest - I have no idea how to do this or if this is feasible.
Last year Marek volunteered to try it, but it did not work out.  IIRC
the conference WiFi wasn't stable enough to do that.

Is anyone (who also attends) willing to try setting up such a Google
Hangout this year again?

Best wishes
  Detlev
  
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[U-Boot] U-Boot Mini Summit

[Detlev Zundel]

Hello Masahiro-san,

[...]

> Perhaps, is it better to insert 5-minute break between talks?
> Speakers might need to get something prepared. (connecting their
> laptop to the beamer, etc.)

Of course.  I did not explicitely include this in the agenda, but such a
5 minute break is what I'll strive to maintain.

Bets wishes
  Detlev
  
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[U-Boot] U-Boot Mini Summit

[Alexey Brodkin]

Hi Detlev,

On Tue, 2014-10-07 at 11:38 +0200, Detlev Zundel wrote:
> Hello Masahiro-san,
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Perhaps, is it better to insert 5-minute break between talks?
> > Speakers might need to get something prepared. (connecting their
> > laptop to the beamer, etc.)
> 
> Of course.  I did not explicitely include this in the agenda, but such a
> 5 minute break is what I'll strive to maintain.

I would even propose to have a backup setup for slides presentation.

I remember I once tried to use a beamer attached to my Fedora-driven
laptop and didn't succeed with that.

Moreover new gen laptops may only have like mini-DisplayPort output
instead of VGA so there's a probability some laptops won't have a chance
to be connected to existing (not that advanced/modern) beamer.

So given you guys have all presentations beforehand (I believe in for of
PDFs) would be good to have an ability to display them if my laptop
refuses to work with beamer again.

-Alexey

[U-Boot] U-Boot Mini Summit

[Detlev Zundel]

Hi Alexey,

> Hi Detlev,
>
> On Tue, 2014-10-07 at 11:38 +0200, Detlev Zundel wrote:
>> Hello Masahiro-san,
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> > Perhaps, is it better to insert 5-minute break between talks?
>> > Speakers might need to get something prepared. (connecting their
>> > laptop to the beamer, etc.)
>> 
>> Of course.  I did not explicitely include this in the agenda, but such a
>> 5 minute break is what I'll strive to maintain.
>
> I would even propose to have a backup setup for slides presentation.

I fully agree and it is already in the works.

> I remember I once tried to use a beamer attached to my Fedora-driven
> laptop and didn't succeed with that.
>
> Moreover new gen laptops may only have like mini-DisplayPort output
> instead of VGA so there's a probability some laptops won't have a chance
> to be connected to existing (not that advanced/modern) beamer.

Indeed.

> So given you guys have all presentations beforehand (I believe in for of
> PDFs) would be good to have an ability to display them if my laptop
> refuses to work with beamer again.

If one laptop fails then we still have enough redundancy to make it
happen :)

Cheers
  Detlev
  
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running.  In a normal,  closed implementation,  this is not a problem;  in a
system with metaobject protocols [..] there is the potential for spectacular
failure modes if certain situations are not properly anticipated.
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[U-Boot] U-Boot mini summit

[Stefano Babic]

Hi everybody,

there were some rumours about next U-Boot mini summit and why there is
not yet a date. The reason is that we at DENX are thinking about, taking
into account that the U-Boot community is steadily increased, which is
the best location for the next summit. We know that a lot of you are in
US or, generally, outside Europe and maybe it is time to ask everybody
where the next summit will take place - and maybe the result will not be
in Europe.

Surely, the summit should be part of an Event organized by the Linux
Foundation, and taking into account the embedded nature of the
bootloader, there are two possible candidates:

	- ELCE in Dublin, 5-7 October 2015
	- ELC in San Diego, 4-6 April 2016

Wolfgang has prepared a "doodle" survey to collect availability and
preferences. Feel free to add your name to the event(s) you would like
to participate.

	http://doodle.com/8mf8xhhbsugtirpa

This survey runs until 10, May 2015 - after that we will know where to
meet for the U-Boot summit.

Thanks everybody for improving U-Boot !

Best regards,
Stefano Babic

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[U-Boot] [VOTING REQUIRED] Re: U-Boot mini summit

[Wolfgang Denk]

On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 Stefano Babic wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> 
> there were some rumours about next U-Boot mini summit and why there is
> not yet a date. The reason is that we at DENX are thinking about, taking
> into account that the U-Boot community is steadily increased, which is
> the best location for the next summit. We know that a lot of you are in
> US or, generally, outside Europe and maybe it is time to ask everybody
> where the next summit will take place - and maybe the result will not be
> in Europe.
> 
> Surely, the summit should be part of an Event organized by the Linux
> Foundation, and taking into account the embedded nature of the
> bootloader, there are two possible candidates:
> 
> 	- ELCE in Dublin, 5-7 October 2015
> 	- ELC in San Diego, 4-6 April 2016
> 
> Wolfgang has prepared a "doodle" survey to collect availability and
> preferences. Feel free to add your name to the event(s) you would like
> to participate.
> 
> 	http://doodle.com/8mf8xhhbsugtirpa
> 
> This survey runs until 10, May 2015 - after that we will know where to
> meet for the U-Boot summit.
> 
> Thanks everybody for improving U-Boot !
> 
> Best regards,
> Stefano Babic


I would like to point out that the poll will be ending on Sunday,
i. e. within less than a week, and so far we have just 16 votes,
or only 9 if we exclude the DENX team.

This cannot be true?  Is there really so little interest in a U-Boot
developer meeting?  In this case we should probably consider not
doing such an event at all?  Or just a tiny one at DENX ;-)

Not even Tom and the majority of the custodians bothered to vote...

Are you all sleeping?  Hey, WAKE UP, this is YOUR event, if you want
to have it in a location which you can conveniently reach, then speak
up NOW!


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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[U-Boot] [VOTING REQUIRED] Re: U-Boot mini summit

[Joe Hershberger]

Hi Wolfgang,

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 Stefano Babic wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> there were some rumours about next U-Boot mini summit and why there is
>> not yet a date. The reason is that we at DENX are thinking about, taking
>> into account that the U-Boot community is steadily increased, which is
>> the best location for the next summit. We know that a lot of you are in
>> US or, generally, outside Europe and maybe it is time to ask everybody
>> where the next summit will take place - and maybe the result will not be
>> in Europe.
>>
>> Surely, the summit should be part of an Event organized by the Linux
>> Foundation, and taking into account the embedded nature of the
>> bootloader, there are two possible candidates:
>>
>>       - ELCE in Dublin, 5-7 October 2015
>>       - ELC in San Diego, 4-6 April 2016
>>
>> Wolfgang has prepared a "doodle" survey to collect availability and
>> preferences. Feel free to add your name to the event(s) you would like
>> to participate.
>>
>>       http://doodle.com/8mf8xhhbsugtirpa
>>
>> This survey runs until 10, May 2015 - after that we will know where to
>> meet for the U-Boot summit.
>>
>> Thanks everybody for improving U-Boot !
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Stefano Babic
>
>
> I would like to point out that the poll will be ending on Sunday,
> i. e. within less than a week, and so far we have just 16 votes,
> or only 9 if we exclude the DENX team.
>
> This cannot be true?  Is there really so little interest in a U-Boot
> developer meeting?  In this case we should probably consider not
> doing such an event at all?  Or just a tiny one at DENX ;-)
>
> Not even Tom and the majority of the custodians bothered to vote...
>
> Are you all sleeping?  Hey, WAKE UP, this is YOUR event, if you want
> to have it in a location which you can conveniently reach, then speak
> up NOW!

I was sleeping... I missed that email. Thanks for CC'ing me. I've voted now.

Cheers,
-Joe

[U-Boot] [VOTING REQUIRED] Re: U-Boot mini summit

[Marek Vasut]

On Monday, May 04, 2015 at 05:31:36 PM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 Stefano Babic wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> > 
> > there were some rumours about next U-Boot mini summit and why there is
> > not yet a date. The reason is that we at DENX are thinking about, taking
> > into account that the U-Boot community is steadily increased, which is
> > the best location for the next summit. We know that a lot of you are in
> > US or, generally, outside Europe and maybe it is time to ask everybody
> > where the next summit will take place - and maybe the result will not be
> > in Europe.
> > 
> > Surely, the summit should be part of an Event organized by the Linux
> > Foundation, and taking into account the embedded nature of the
> > 
> > bootloader, there are two possible candidates:
> > 	- ELCE in Dublin, 5-7 October 2015
> > 	- ELC in San Diego, 4-6 April 2016
> > 
> > Wolfgang has prepared a "doodle" survey to collect availability and
> > preferences. Feel free to add your name to the event(s) you would like
> > to participate.
> > 
> > 	http://doodle.com/8mf8xhhbsugtirpa
> > 
> > This survey runs until 10, May 2015 - after that we will know where to
> > meet for the U-Boot summit.
> > 
> > Thanks everybody for improving U-Boot !
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Stefano Babic
> 
> I would like to point out that the poll will be ending on Sunday,
> i. e. within less than a week, and so far we have just 16 votes,
> or only 9 if we exclude the DENX team.
> 
> This cannot be true?  Is there really so little interest in a U-Boot
> developer meeting?  In this case we should probably consider not
> doing such an event at all?  Or just a tiny one at DENX ;-)
> 
> Not even Tom and the majority of the custodians bothered to vote...
> 
> Are you all sleeping?  Hey, WAKE UP, this is YOUR event, if you want
> to have it in a location which you can conveniently reach, then speak
> up NOW!

You can also add linuxcon japan into the mix next time :-)

Best regards,
Marek Vasut

[U-Boot] [VOTING REQUIRED] Re: U-Boot mini summit

[Angelo Dureghello]

Hi Wolfgang and all,


On 04/05/2015 17:31, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 Stefano Babic wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> there were some rumours about next U-Boot mini summit and why there is
>> not yet a date. The reason is that we at DENX are thinking about, taking
>> into account that the U-Boot community is steadily increased, which is
>> the best location for the next summit. We know that a lot of you are in
>> US or, generally, outside Europe and maybe it is time to ask everybody
>> where the next summit will take place - and maybe the result will not be
>> in Europe.
>>
>> Surely, the summit should be part of an Event organized by the Linux
>> Foundation, and taking into account the embedded nature of the
>> bootloader, there are two possible candidates:
>>
>> 	- ELCE in Dublin, 5-7 October 2015
>> 	- ELC in San Diego, 4-6 April 2016
>>
>> Wolfgang has prepared a "doodle" survey to collect availability and
>> preferences. Feel free to add your name to the event(s) you would like
>> to participate.
>>
>> 	http://doodle.com/8mf8xhhbsugtirpa
>>
>> This survey runs until 10, May 2015 - after that we will know where to
>> meet for the U-Boot summit.
>>
>> Thanks everybody for improving U-Boot !
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Stefano Babic
>
>
> I would like to point out that the poll will be ending on Sunday,
> i. e. within less than a week, and so far we have just 16 votes,
> or only 9 if we exclude the DENX team.
>
> This cannot be true?  Is there really so little interest in a U-Boot
> developer meeting?  In this case we should probably consider not
> doing such an event at all?  Or just a tiny one at DENX ;-)
>
> Not even Tom and the majority of the custodians bothered to vote...
>
> Are you all sleeping?  Hey, WAKE UP, this is YOUR event, if you want
> to have it in a location which you can conveniently reach, then speak
> up NOW!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Wolfgang Denk
>

i am _very_ interested, sorry but someway lost the first invitation.

Will do my best to come.

Best regards
Angelo Dureghello

[U-Boot] [VOTING REQUIRED] Re: U-Boot mini summit

[Tom Rini]

On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 05:31:36PM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 Stefano Babic wrote:
> 
> > Hi everybody,
> > 
> > there were some rumours about next U-Boot mini summit and why there is
> > not yet a date. The reason is that we at DENX are thinking about, taking
> > into account that the U-Boot community is steadily increased, which is
> > the best location for the next summit. We know that a lot of you are in
> > US or, generally, outside Europe and maybe it is time to ask everybody
> > where the next summit will take place - and maybe the result will not be
> > in Europe.
> > 
> > Surely, the summit should be part of an Event organized by the Linux
> > Foundation, and taking into account the embedded nature of the
> > bootloader, there are two possible candidates:
> > 
> > 	- ELCE in Dublin, 5-7 October 2015
> > 	- ELC in San Diego, 4-6 April 2016
> > 
> > Wolfgang has prepared a "doodle" survey to collect availability and
> > preferences. Feel free to add your name to the event(s) you would like
> > to participate.
> > 
> > 	http://doodle.com/8mf8xhhbsugtirpa
> > 
> > This survey runs until 10, May 2015 - after that we will know where to
> > meet for the U-Boot summit.
> > 
> > Thanks everybody for improving U-Boot !
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Stefano Babic
> 
> 
> I would like to point out that the poll will be ending on Sunday,
> i. e. within less than a week, and so far we have just 16 votes,
> or only 9 if we exclude the DENX team.
> 
> This cannot be true?  Is there really so little interest in a U-Boot
> developer meeting?  In this case we should probably consider not
> doing such an event at all?  Or just a tiny one at DENX ;-)
> 
> Not even Tom and the majority of the custodians bothered to vote...
> 
> Are you all sleeping?  Hey, WAKE UP, this is YOUR event, if you want
> to have it in a location which you can conveniently reach, then speak
> up NOW!

*snore* Hunh? What? Crap...

-- 
Tom
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[U-Boot] [VOTING REQUIRED] Re: U-Boot mini summit

[Wolfgang Denk]

Hi everybody,

last reminder:

The poll for date and location of the next U-Boot summit will end on
Sunday.  Until then, you can vote at

	http://doodle.com/8mf8xhhbsugtirpa

Current status:

		October 5-7, 2015	April 4-6, 2016
		ELCE			ELC
		Dublin, Ireland		San Diego, CA, USA

	  Yes	22			12
     Ifneedbe	5			14
	   No	7			8
	
Most popular date: Mon 10/5/15 ? Wed 10/7/15, ELCE, Dublin, Ireland

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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[U-Boot] [VOTING RESULTS] Re: U-Boot mini summit

[Wolfgang Denk]

Hello all,

In message <20150508090207.6233B38058E@gemini.denx.de> I wrote:
> 
> The poll for date and location of the next U-Boot summit will end on
> Sunday.  Until then, you can vote at

The voting period is over.  We have a clear result [1]:

		October 5-7, 2015	April 4-6, 2016
		ELCE			ELC
		Dublin, Ireland		San Diego, CA, USA

	  Yes	22			12
     Ifneedbe	5			14
	   No	7			8

34 participants

The winner is ELCE in October in Dublin, Ireland.

I'm looking forward to meeting you all in Dublin!


[1] http://doodle.com/8mf8xhhbsugtirpa


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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