From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>
Cc: "Marek Vasut" <marex@denx.de>,
"Alexandre Courbot" <gnurou@gmail.com>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, "Rafał Miłecki" <zajec5@gmail.com>,
linux-spi@vger.kernel.org,
"Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
"Ezequiel Garcia" <ezequiel.garcia@free-electrons.com>,
linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: tegra: add "nor-jedec" flash compatible binding
Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 15:03:40 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <554D24AC.9080404@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150508201527.GC32500@ld-irv-0074>
On 05/08/2015 02:15 PM, Brian Norris wrote:
> On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 02:01:40PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 05/08/2015 12:43 PM, Brian Norris wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 10:00:12AM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> Equally, "nor-jedec" doesn't sound like the right name. It doesn't
>>>> differentiate between SPI and parallel NOR flash, which presumably
>>>> need different compatible values, since the programming model is
>>>> quite different, and the compatible value is supposed to
>>>> define/imply the SW-visible programming model.
>>>
>>> It's definitely for SPI only. There was much discussion about this a
>>> few months back. Somewhere along the way, it was mentioned that the
>>> context (SPI slave is a child of SPI master) would make this clear. I'm
>>> still not sure why we didn't end up with something more descriptive,
>>> though, like "spi-nor,nor-jedec".
>>>
>>> I'm open to change, as this binding is new in 4.1-rc1.
>>
>> I don't believe compatible values should be interpreted according to
>> context; compatible value matching isn't implemented that way AFAIK,
>> and I'm not aware of any precedent for it to work that way.
>
> For SPI slaves, they are always nested within their SPI master/bus node.
> The master driver chooses how to probe its children. So there is some
> context-sensitivity.
That means it might be possible to implement context-sensitivity.
However, it does not mean context-sensitivity is or should be implemented.
>> Did the discussion involve the core DT maintainers? If so, whatever
>> they decided can stick. Otherwise, the discussion should be rubn by
>> them.
>
> Yes. I never got an "ack", but Mark Rutland commented a few times and
> didn't seem to object to the name. e.g.:
>
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2015-March/058275.html
Nobody pointed out in that thread the "jedec-nor" isn't remotely
SPI-specific.
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From: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
To: Brian Norris <computersforpeace-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Rafał Miłecki" <zajec5-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
"Alexandre Courbot"
<gnurou-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
"Thierry Reding"
<thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-mtd-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
"Ezequiel Garcia"
<ezequiel.garcia-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
"Marek Vasut" <marex-ynQEQJNshbs@public.gmane.org>,
linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: tegra: add "nor-jedec" flash compatible binding
Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 15:03:40 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <554D24AC.9080404@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150508201527.GC32500@ld-irv-0074>
On 05/08/2015 02:15 PM, Brian Norris wrote:
> On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 02:01:40PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 05/08/2015 12:43 PM, Brian Norris wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 10:00:12AM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> Equally, "nor-jedec" doesn't sound like the right name. It doesn't
>>>> differentiate between SPI and parallel NOR flash, which presumably
>>>> need different compatible values, since the programming model is
>>>> quite different, and the compatible value is supposed to
>>>> define/imply the SW-visible programming model.
>>>
>>> It's definitely for SPI only. There was much discussion about this a
>>> few months back. Somewhere along the way, it was mentioned that the
>>> context (SPI slave is a child of SPI master) would make this clear. I'm
>>> still not sure why we didn't end up with something more descriptive,
>>> though, like "spi-nor,nor-jedec".
>>>
>>> I'm open to change, as this binding is new in 4.1-rc1.
>>
>> I don't believe compatible values should be interpreted according to
>> context; compatible value matching isn't implemented that way AFAIK,
>> and I'm not aware of any precedent for it to work that way.
>
> For SPI slaves, they are always nested within their SPI master/bus node.
> The master driver chooses how to probe its children. So there is some
> context-sensitivity.
That means it might be possible to implement context-sensitivity.
However, it does not mean context-sensitivity is or should be implemented.
>> Did the discussion involve the core DT maintainers? If so, whatever
>> they decided can stick. Otherwise, the discussion should be rubn by
>> them.
>
> Yes. I never got an "ack", but Mark Rutland commented a few times and
> didn't seem to object to the name. e.g.:
>
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2015-March/058275.html
Nobody pointed out in that thread the "jedec-nor" isn't remotely
SPI-specific.
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From: swarren@wwwdotorg.org (Stephen Warren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] ARM: tegra: add "nor-jedec" flash compatible binding
Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 15:03:40 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <554D24AC.9080404@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150508201527.GC32500@ld-irv-0074>
On 05/08/2015 02:15 PM, Brian Norris wrote:
> On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 02:01:40PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 05/08/2015 12:43 PM, Brian Norris wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 10:00:12AM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> Equally, "nor-jedec" doesn't sound like the right name. It doesn't
>>>> differentiate between SPI and parallel NOR flash, which presumably
>>>> need different compatible values, since the programming model is
>>>> quite different, and the compatible value is supposed to
>>>> define/imply the SW-visible programming model.
>>>
>>> It's definitely for SPI only. There was much discussion about this a
>>> few months back. Somewhere along the way, it was mentioned that the
>>> context (SPI slave is a child of SPI master) would make this clear. I'm
>>> still not sure why we didn't end up with something more descriptive,
>>> though, like "spi-nor,nor-jedec".
>>>
>>> I'm open to change, as this binding is new in 4.1-rc1.
>>
>> I don't believe compatible values should be interpreted according to
>> context; compatible value matching isn't implemented that way AFAIK,
>> and I'm not aware of any precedent for it to work that way.
>
> For SPI slaves, they are always nested within their SPI master/bus node.
> The master driver chooses how to probe its children. So there is some
> context-sensitivity.
That means it might be possible to implement context-sensitivity.
However, it does not mean context-sensitivity is or should be implemented.
>> Did the discussion involve the core DT maintainers? If so, whatever
>> they decided can stick. Otherwise, the discussion should be rubn by
>> them.
>
> Yes. I never got an "ack", but Mark Rutland commented a few times and
> didn't seem to object to the name. e.g.:
>
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2015-March/058275.html
Nobody pointed out in that thread the "jedec-nor" isn't remotely
SPI-specific.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-08 21:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-08 6:21 [PATCH] ARM: tegra: add "nor-jedec" flash compatible binding Rafał Miłecki
2015-05-08 6:21 ` Rafał Miłecki
2015-05-08 6:21 ` Rafał Miłecki
2015-05-08 16:00 ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-08 16:00 ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-08 16:00 ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-08 18:43 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-08 18:43 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-08 18:43 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-08 18:47 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-08 18:47 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-08 18:47 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-08 18:47 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-08 20:01 ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-08 20:01 ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-08 20:01 ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-08 20:15 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-08 20:15 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-08 20:15 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-08 21:03 ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2015-05-08 21:03 ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-08 21:03 ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-08 20:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-08 20:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-08 20:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-08 20:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-08 21:04 ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-08 21:04 ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-08 21:04 ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-08 21:04 ` Stephen Warren
2015-05-08 21:34 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-08 21:34 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-08 21:34 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-08 21:34 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-11 22:46 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-11 22:46 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-11 22:46 ` Brian Norris
2015-05-11 22:46 ` Brian Norris
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