From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>, Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"nao.horiguchi@gmail.com" <nao.horiguchi@gmail.com>,
Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>, Xiexiuqi <xiexiuqi@huawei.com>,
Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 10/12] mm: add the buddy system interface
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:47:27 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <557E911F.5040602@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F32A8F209@ORSMSX114.amr.corp.intel.com>
On 2015/06/11 5:40, Luck, Tony wrote:
>> I guess, mirrored memory should be allocated if !__GFP_HIGHMEM or !__GFP_MOVABLE
>
> HIGHMEM shouldn't matter - partial memory mirror only makes any sense on X86_64 systems ... 32-bit kernels
> don't even boot on systems with 64GB, and the minimum rational configuration for a machine that supports
> mirror is 128GB (4 cpu sockets * 2 memory controller per socket * 4 channels per controller * 4GB DIMM ...
> leaving any channels empty likely leaves you short of memory bandwidth for these high core count processors).
>
> MOVABLE is mostly the opposite of MIRROR - we never want to fill a kernel allocation from a MOVABLE page. I
> want all kernel allocations to be from MIRROR.
>
So, there are 3 ideas.
(1) kernel only from MIRROR / user only from MOVABLE (Tony)
(2) kernel only from MIRROR / user from MOVABLE + MIRROR(ASAP) (AKPM suggested)
This makes use of the fact MOVABLE memory is reclaimable but Tony pointed out
the memory reclaim can be critical for GFP_ATOMIC.
(3) kernel only from MIRROR / user from MOVABLE, special user from MIRROR (Xishi)
2 Implementation ideas.
- creating ZONE
- creating new alloation attribute
I don't convince whether we need some new structure in mm. Isn't it good to use
ZONE_MOVABLE for not-mirrored memory ?
Then, disable fallback from ZONE_MOVABLE -> ZONE_NORMAL for (1) and (3)
Thanks,
-Kame
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From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>, Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"nao.horiguchi@gmail.com" <nao.horiguchi@gmail.com>,
Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>, Xiexiuqi <xiexiuqi@huawei.com>,
Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 10/12] mm: add the buddy system interface
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:47:27 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <557E911F.5040602@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F32A8F209@ORSMSX114.amr.corp.intel.com>
On 2015/06/11 5:40, Luck, Tony wrote:
>> I guess, mirrored memory should be allocated if !__GFP_HIGHMEM or !__GFP_MOVABLE
>
> HIGHMEM shouldn't matter - partial memory mirror only makes any sense on X86_64 systems ... 32-bit kernels
> don't even boot on systems with 64GB, and the minimum rational configuration for a machine that supports
> mirror is 128GB (4 cpu sockets * 2 memory controller per socket * 4 channels per controller * 4GB DIMM ...
> leaving any channels empty likely leaves you short of memory bandwidth for these high core count processors).
>
> MOVABLE is mostly the opposite of MIRROR - we never want to fill a kernel allocation from a MOVABLE page. I
> want all kernel allocations to be from MIRROR.
>
So, there are 3 ideas.
(1) kernel only from MIRROR / user only from MOVABLE (Tony)
(2) kernel only from MIRROR / user from MOVABLE + MIRROR(ASAP) (AKPM suggested)
This makes use of the fact MOVABLE memory is reclaimable but Tony pointed out
the memory reclaim can be critical for GFP_ATOMIC.
(3) kernel only from MIRROR / user from MOVABLE, special user from MIRROR (Xishi)
2 Implementation ideas.
- creating ZONE
- creating new alloation attribute
I don't convince whether we need some new structure in mm. Isn't it good to use
ZONE_MOVABLE for not-mirrored memory ?
Then, disable fallback from ZONE_MOVABLE -> ZONE_NORMAL for (1) and (3)
Thanks,
-Kame
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-15 8:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-04 12:54 [RFC PATCH 00/12] mm: mirrored memory support for page buddy allocations Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 12:54 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 12:56 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] mm: add a new config to manage the code Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 12:56 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-08 11:52 ` Leon Romanovsky
2015-06-08 11:52 ` Leon Romanovsky
2015-06-08 15:14 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-08 15:14 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-08 16:36 ` Leon Romanovsky
2015-06-08 16:36 ` Leon Romanovsky
2015-06-09 6:44 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-09 6:44 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-09 10:10 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-09 10:10 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-10 3:07 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-10 3:07 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-04 12:57 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] mm: introduce mirror_info Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 12:57 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 16:57 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-04 16:57 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-05 1:53 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-05 1:53 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-09 6:48 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-09 6:48 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-04 12:58 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] mm: introduce MIGRATE_MIRROR to manage the mirrored, pages Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 12:58 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-09 6:54 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-09 6:54 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-04 12:59 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] mm: add mirrored pages to buddy system Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 12:59 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 13:00 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] mm: introduce a new zone_stat_item NR_FREE_MIRROR_PAGES Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 13:00 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] mm: add free mirrored pages info Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 13:01 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 13:02 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] mm: introduce __GFP_MIRROR to allocate mirrored pages Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 13:02 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-09 7:01 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-09 7:01 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-04 13:02 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] mm: use mirrorable to switch allocate mirrored memory Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 13:02 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 17:01 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-04 17:01 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-04 18:41 ` Dave Hansen
2015-06-04 18:41 ` Dave Hansen
2015-06-05 3:13 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-05 3:13 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-09 7:06 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-09 7:06 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-09 10:09 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-09 10:09 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-10 3:09 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-10 3:09 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-12 8:05 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-06-12 8:05 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-06-04 13:03 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] mm: enable allocate mirrored memory at boot time Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 13:03 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 13:04 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] mm: add the buddy system interface Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 13:04 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 17:09 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-04 17:09 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-05 3:14 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-05 3:14 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-09 7:12 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-09 7:12 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-09 10:04 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-09 10:04 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-10 3:06 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-10 3:06 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-10 20:40 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-10 20:40 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-15 8:47 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki [this message]
2015-06-15 8:47 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-15 17:20 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-15 17:20 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-16 0:31 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-16 0:31 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-25 9:44 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-25 9:44 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-25 23:54 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-25 23:54 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-26 1:43 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-26 1:43 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-26 8:34 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-26 8:34 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-06-26 10:38 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-26 10:38 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-26 18:42 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-26 18:42 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-04 13:04 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] mm: add the PCP interface Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 13:04 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 18:44 ` Dave Hansen
2015-06-04 18:44 ` Dave Hansen
2015-06-04 13:05 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] mm: let slab/slub/slob use mirrored memory Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 13:05 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-04 17:14 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-04 17:14 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-12 8:42 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] mm: mirrored memory support for page buddy allocations Naoya Horiguchi
2015-06-12 8:42 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-06-12 9:09 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-12 9:09 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-12 19:03 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-12 19:03 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-15 0:25 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-06-15 0:25 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-06-16 7:53 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-16 7:53 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-16 8:17 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-16 8:17 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-16 9:46 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-16 9:46 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-18 1:23 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-18 1:23 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-18 5:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-18 5:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-18 9:37 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-18 9:37 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-18 9:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-18 9:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-18 20:33 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-18 20:33 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-19 1:36 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-19 1:36 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-06-19 18:42 ` Luck, Tony
2015-06-19 18:42 ` Luck, Tony
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