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From: Alexander Sverdlin <alexander.sverdlin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: balbi-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org,
	Alexander Sverdlin
	<alexander.sverdlin-xNZwKgViW5gAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] i2c: omap: improve duty cycle on SCL
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:38:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5581BEB2.6070007@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150617180052.GF18421-HgARHv6XitJaoMGHk7MhZQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>

Hello Felipe,

On 17/06/15 20:00, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>> With this patch we try to be as close to 50%
>>> > > duty cycle as possible. The reason for this
>>> > > is that some devices present an erratic behavior
>>> > > with certain duty cycles.
>>> > > 
>>> > > One such example is TPS65218 PMIC which fails
>>> > > to change voltages when running @ 400kHz and
>>> > > duty cycle is lower than 34%.
>>> > > 
>>> > > The idea of the patch is simple:
>>> > > 
>>> > > calculate desired scl_period from requested scl
>>> > > and use 50% for tLow and 50% for tHigh.
>>> > > 
>>> > > tLow is calculated with a DIV_ROUND_UP() to make
>>> > > sure it's slightly higher than tHigh and to make
>>> > > sure that we end up within I2C specifications.
>>> > > 
>>> > > Kudos to Nishanth Menon and Dave Gerlach for helping
>>> > > debugging the TPS65218 problem found on AM437x SK.
>>> > > 
>>> > > Signed-off-by: Felipe Balbi <balbi-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
>> > 
>> > NAK.
>> > This is a direct violation of PHILIPS I2C-bus Specification v.2.1,
>> > section 15.
>> > Namely, you will have LOW period of SCL clock shorter than required
>> > 1.3uS.
> how is this out of spec ?
> 
> http://i.imgur.com/jEDlZT7.png
> 
> -Width = 1.4us, frequency 373.1kHz, duty cycle of 47.76%
> 
> In any case, I have to send v2 anyway (found a bug which would show up
> on frequencies above 400kHz), so I'll resend this patch.

If you really target 50% duty cycle and there will be no rounding/truncation
error, you will end up with 1.25uS at 400kHz. I understand why you want to
make HIGH phase longer, but 50% is a bad target at 400hHz. Probably more safe
value?

Alex.

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From: alexander.sverdlin@gmail.com (Alexander Sverdlin)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH RESEND] i2c: omap: improve duty cycle on SCL
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:38:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5581BEB2.6070007@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150617180052.GF18421@saruman.tx.rr.com>

Hello Felipe,

On 17/06/15 20:00, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>> With this patch we try to be as close to 50%
>>> > > duty cycle as possible. The reason for this
>>> > > is that some devices present an erratic behavior
>>> > > with certain duty cycles.
>>> > > 
>>> > > One such example is TPS65218 PMIC which fails
>>> > > to change voltages when running @ 400kHz and
>>> > > duty cycle is lower than 34%.
>>> > > 
>>> > > The idea of the patch is simple:
>>> > > 
>>> > > calculate desired scl_period from requested scl
>>> > > and use 50% for tLow and 50% for tHigh.
>>> > > 
>>> > > tLow is calculated with a DIV_ROUND_UP() to make
>>> > > sure it's slightly higher than tHigh and to make
>>> > > sure that we end up within I2C specifications.
>>> > > 
>>> > > Kudos to Nishanth Menon and Dave Gerlach for helping
>>> > > debugging the TPS65218 problem found on AM437x SK.
>>> > > 
>>> > > Signed-off-by: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>
>> > 
>> > NAK.
>> > This is a direct violation of PHILIPS I2C-bus Specification v.2.1,
>> > section 15.
>> > Namely, you will have LOW period of SCL clock shorter than required
>> > 1.3uS.
> how is this out of spec ?
> 
> http://i.imgur.com/jEDlZT7.png
> 
> -Width = 1.4us, frequency 373.1kHz, duty cycle of 47.76%
> 
> In any case, I have to send v2 anyway (found a bug which would show up
> on frequencies above 400kHz), so I'll resend this patch.

If you really target 50% duty cycle and there will be no rounding/truncation
error, you will end up with 1.25uS at 400kHz. I understand why you want to
make HIGH phase longer, but 50% is a bad target at 400hHz. Probably more safe
value?

Alex.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-17 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-16 19:20 [PATCH RESEND] i2c: omap: improve duty cycle on SCL Felipe Balbi
2015-06-16 19:20 ` Felipe Balbi
2015-06-16 19:26 ` Felipe Balbi
2015-06-16 19:26   ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found] ` <1434482445-1818-1-git-send-email-balbi-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-17  9:19   ` Alexander Sverdlin
2015-06-17  9:19     ` Alexander Sverdlin
2015-06-17 18:00     ` Felipe Balbi
2015-06-17 18:00       ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found]       ` <20150617180052.GF18421-HgARHv6XitJaoMGHk7MhZQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-17 18:04         ` Felipe Balbi
2015-06-17 18:04           ` Felipe Balbi
2015-06-17 18:38         ` Alexander Sverdlin [this message]
2015-06-17 18:38           ` Alexander Sverdlin
2015-06-17 18:57           ` Felipe Balbi
2015-06-17 18:57             ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found]             ` <20150617185714.GH18421-HgARHv6XitJaoMGHk7MhZQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-17 19:21               ` Alexander Sverdlin
2015-06-17 19:21                 ` Alexander Sverdlin

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