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From: Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru>
To: Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski@samsung.com>
Cc: Stas Sergeev <stsp@users.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Bryan Wu <cooloney@gmail.com>, Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net>,
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	Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
	Ingi Kim <ingi2.kim@samsung.com>,
	Jan-Simon Moeller <dl9pf@gmx.de>,
	Johan
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC RESEND] leds: Use set_brightness_work for brightness_set ops that can sleep
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 15:55:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <559291C8.2010504@list.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55928E7B.2020306@samsung.com>

30.06.2015 15:41, Jacek Anaszewski пишет:
> On 06/30/2015 01:41 PM, Stas Sergeev wrote:
>> 30.06.2015 11:27, Jacek Anaszewski пишет:
>>> On 06/29/2015 05:17 PM, Stas Sergeev wrote:> 29.06.2015 17:05, Jacek Anaszewski пишет:
>>>>> +         * If need to disable soft blinking delegate this to the
>>>>> +         * work queue task to avoid problems in case we are
>>>>> +         * called from hard irq context.
>>>>> +         */
>>>>> +        led_cdev->flags |= LED_BLINK_DISABLE;
>>>> Wouldn't it be better to just enforce the callers
>>>> to explicitly disable software blink, so that it to
>>>> never happen from irq context? Something like in this
>>>> patch:
>>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/5/13/491
>>>>
>>>
>>> Blinking can be disabled not only by removing trigger explicitly,
>>> but also by setting brightness to 0 and led_set_brightness
>>> can be called from hard irq context. set_brightness_work
>>> was originally introduced exactly for this use case.
>> Could you please describe where does this happen?
> This in fact doesn't take place in the mainline kernel,
> however there are some out of tree users apparently [1].
Oh, IMHO the hooks that are needed only for out-of-tree code
require the appropriate comment, at least. I was entirely
confused by its existence. IIRC in the past there was even
the policy to not include any hooks for out-of-tree code at
all.

> Modifications I am proposing also need set_brightness_work,
> so there is almost no cost of keeping the support for calling led_set_brightness from hard irq context intact.
I wonder if there are possible races, eg you schedule disabling
of the softblink timer, and someone else at the same time also
disables it (and probably also re-enables).
Well if you think that code is safe, I would agree that the cost
is now very small with your patch, so maybe it is not a big deal
any more.

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From: Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru>
To: Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski@samsung.com>
Cc: "Stas Sergeev" <stsp@users.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Bryan Wu" <cooloney@gmail.com>,
	"Richard Purdie" <rpurdie@rpsys.net>,
	"Pavel Machek" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"Sakari Ailus" <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Andreas Werner" <andreas.werner@men.de>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Antonio Ospite" <ospite@studenti.unina.it>,
	"Atsushi Nemoto" <anemo@mba.ocn.ne.jp>,
	"Ben Dooks" <ben@simtec.co.uk>, "Chris Boot" <bootc@bootc.net>,
	"Dan Murphy" <dmurphy@ti.com>,
	"Daniel Jeong" <daniel.jeong@ti.com>,
	"Daniel Mack" <daniel@zonque.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Fabio Baltieri" <fabio.baltieri@gmail.com>,
	"Felipe Balbi" <balbi@ti.com>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <florian@openwrt.org>,
	"G.Shark Jeong" <gshark.jeong@gmail.com>,
	"Guennadi Liakhovetski" <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
	"Ingi Kim" <ingi2.kim@samsung.com>,
	"Jan-Simon Moeller" <dl9pf@gmx.de>,
	"Johan Hovold" <johan@kernel.org>, "John Lenz" <lenz@cs.wisc.edu>,
	"Jonas Gorski" <jogo@openwrt.org>,
	"Kim Kyuwon" <q1.kim@samsung.com>,
	"Kristian Kielhofner" <kris@krisk.org>,
	"Kristoffer Ericson" <kristoffer.ericson@gmail.com>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Michael Hennerich" <michael.hennerich@analog.com>,
	"Milo Kim" <milo.kim@ti.com>, "Márton Németh" <nm127@freemail.hu>,
	"Nate Case" <ncase@xes-inc.com>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	"Nick Forbes" <nick.forbes@incepta.com>,
	"Paul Parsons" <lost.distance@yahoo.com>,
	"Peter Meerwald" <p.meerwald@bct-electronic.com>,
	"Phil Sutter" <n0-1@freewrt.org>,
	"Philippe Retornaz" <philippe.retornaz@epfl.ch>,
	"Raphael Assenat" <raph@8d.com>,
	"Richard Purdie" <rpurdie@openedhand.com>,
	"Rod Whitby" <rod@whitby.id.au>, "Dave Hansen" <dave@sr71.net>,
	"Rodolfo Giometti" <giometti@linux.it>,
	"Sebastian A. Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuahkhan@gmail.com>,
	"Simon Guinot" <sguinot@lacie.com>,
	"Álvaro Fernández Rojas" <noltari@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC RESEND] leds: Use set_brightness_work for brightness_set ops that can sleep
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 15:55:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <559291C8.2010504@list.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55928E7B.2020306@samsung.com>

30.06.2015 15:41, Jacek Anaszewski пишет:
> On 06/30/2015 01:41 PM, Stas Sergeev wrote:
>> 30.06.2015 11:27, Jacek Anaszewski пишет:
>>> On 06/29/2015 05:17 PM, Stas Sergeev wrote:> 29.06.2015 17:05, Jacek Anaszewski пишет:
>>>>> +         * If need to disable soft blinking delegate this to the
>>>>> +         * work queue task to avoid problems in case we are
>>>>> +         * called from hard irq context.
>>>>> +         */
>>>>> +        led_cdev->flags |= LED_BLINK_DISABLE;
>>>> Wouldn't it be better to just enforce the callers
>>>> to explicitly disable software blink, so that it to
>>>> never happen from irq context? Something like in this
>>>> patch:
>>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/5/13/491
>>>>
>>>
>>> Blinking can be disabled not only by removing trigger explicitly,
>>> but also by setting brightness to 0 and led_set_brightness
>>> can be called from hard irq context. set_brightness_work
>>> was originally introduced exactly for this use case.
>> Could you please describe where does this happen?
> This in fact doesn't take place in the mainline kernel,
> however there are some out of tree users apparently [1].
Oh, IMHO the hooks that are needed only for out-of-tree code
require the appropriate comment, at least. I was entirely
confused by its existence. IIRC in the past there was even
the policy to not include any hooks for out-of-tree code at
all.

> Modifications I am proposing also need set_brightness_work,
> so there is almost no cost of keeping the support for calling led_set_brightness from hard irq context intact.
I wonder if there are possible races, eg you schedule disabling
of the softblink timer, and someone else at the same time also
disables it (and probably also re-enables).
Well if you think that code is safe, I would agree that the cost
is now very small with your patch, so maybe it is not a big deal
any more.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-30 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-30  8:01 [PATCH/RFC RESEND] leds: Use set_brightness_work for brightness_set ops that can sleep Jacek Anaszewski
2015-06-30  8:01 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-06-30  8:27 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-06-30  8:27   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-06-30 11:41   ` Stas Sergeev
2015-06-30 11:41     ` Stas Sergeev
2015-06-30 12:41     ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-06-30 12:41       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-06-30 12:55       ` Stas Sergeev [this message]
2015-06-30 12:55         ` Stas Sergeev
2015-06-30 11:58 ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-30 11:58   ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-30 13:06   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-06-30 13:06     ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-06-30 17:46     ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-30 17:46       ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-01  7:28       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-07-01  7:28         ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-07-01  7:43         ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-01  7:43           ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-01 10:47           ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-07-01 10:47             ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-07-01 13:37             ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-01 13:37               ` Pavel Machek

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