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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dm-mpath: always return reservation conflict
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:52:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55A64980.3070304@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1436960108.31121.41.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On 07/15/2015 01:35 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-07-15 at 13:23 +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>> If dm-mpath encounters an reservation conflict it should not
>> fail the path (as communication with the target is not affected)
>> but should rather retry on another path.
>> However, in doing so we might be inducing a ping-pong between
>> paths, with no guarantee of any forward progress.
>> And arguably a reservation conflict is an unexpected error,
>> so we should be passing it upwards to allow the application
>> to take appropriate steps.
> 
> If I interpret the code correctly, you've changed the behaviour from the
> current try all paths and fail them, ultimately passing the reservation
> conflict up if all paths fail to return reservation conflict
> immediately, keeping all paths running.  This assumes that the
> reservation isn't path specific because if we encounter a path specific
> reservation, you've altered the behaviour from route around to fail.
> 
That is correct.
As mentioned in the path, the 'correct' solution would be to retry
the offending I/O on another path.
However, the current multipath design doesn't allow us to do that
without failing the path first.
If we were just retrying I/O on another path without failing the
path first (and all paths would return a reservation conflict) we
wouldn't know when we've exhausted all paths.

> The case I think the original code was for is SAN Volume controllers
> which use path specific SCSI-3 reservations effectively to do traffic
> control and allow favoured paths.  Have you verified that nothing we
> encounter in the enterprise uses path specific reservations for
> multipath shaping any more?
> 
Ah. That was some input I was looking for.
With that patch I've assumed that persistent reservations are done
primarily from userland / filesystem, where the reservation would
effectively be done on a per-LUN basis.
If it's being used from the storage array internally this is a
different matter.
(Although I'd be very interested how this behaviour would play
together with applications which use persistent reservations
internally; GPFS springs to mind here ...)

But apparently this specific behaviour wasn't seen that often in the
field; I certainly never got any customer reports about mysteriously
failing paths.

Anyway. I'll see if I can come up with something to restore the
original behaviour.

Cheers,

Hannes
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-15 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-15 11:23 [PATCH] dm-mpath: always return reservation conflict Hannes Reinecke
2015-07-15 11:35 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-15 11:52   ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2015-07-15 11:56     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-15 12:02       ` Hannes Reinecke
2015-07-15 12:01     ` James Bottomley
2015-07-15 12:15       ` Hannes Reinecke
2015-07-15 13:20         ` Mike Snitzer
2015-07-16  5:07   ` [PATCH] " Christophe Varoqui
2015-07-16  7:54     ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-16 14:40       ` Hannes Reinecke
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-08-02 12:36 [PING / RESEND] handling reservation conflicts in dm-mpath Christoph Hellwig
2016-08-02 12:36 ` [PATCH] dm-mpath: always return reservation conflict Christoph Hellwig

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