All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Peter Hurley <peter-WaGBZJeGNqdsbIuE7sb01tBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Sven Brauch <mail-ITmcY+a7/CDoK6nBLMlh1Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oneukum-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>,
	Johan Hovold <johan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	One Thousand Gnomes
	<gnomes-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>,
	Toby Gray <toby.gray-BiNz9QiKYoNBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-serial-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix data loss in cdc-acm
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:36:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55C249A3.6030809@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B01EDE.3050503-ITmcY+a7/CDoK6nBLMlh1Q@public.gmane.org>

On 07/22/2015 06:53 PM, Sven Brauch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 23/07/15 00:12, Peter Hurley wrote:
>> The premature unthrottle actually leads to the data loss but the throttling
>> with a mere 2K left is _way too late_.
> Ok, yes, I think so too.
> 
>> 10ms is a _really_ long time for a cpu not to attend to a kworker.

I haven't forgotten about this problem and I still plan to look into why
the long delay, particularly focusing on the scheduling latency from
tty_flip_buffer_push() => flush_to_ldisc().

Regards,
Peter Hurley

>> Which raises 2 questions:
>> 1. What are the termios settings of the tty receiving input? Is it 'raw'
>>    mode or typical terminal mode (icanon, echo, etc.) or something else?
> In my test code, I open the tty like
>   fd = open("/dev/ttyACM0", O_RDWR | O_NOCTTY | O_NONBLOCK);
> I don't make any other changes to the default settings. To be honest,
> I'm not sure in which mode it is operating then (I was assuming raw, but
> I might be wrong?).
> 
>> 2. Are there RT threads that are hogging cpu time?
> I can't see any, I think the only thing which occasionally goes to RT is
> pulseaudio (but during at least some of the tests I wasn't even playing
> audio, so that sounds very unplausible to me). I also cannot see a
> correlation between failure rate and CPU load.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sven
> 

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in
the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
To: Sven Brauch <mail@svenbrauch.de>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>, Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Toby Gray <toby.gray@realvnc.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-serial@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix data loss in cdc-acm
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:36:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55C249A3.6030809@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B01EDE.3050503@svenbrauch.de>

On 07/22/2015 06:53 PM, Sven Brauch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 23/07/15 00:12, Peter Hurley wrote:
>> The premature unthrottle actually leads to the data loss but the throttling
>> with a mere 2K left is _way too late_.
> Ok, yes, I think so too.
> 
>> 10ms is a _really_ long time for a cpu not to attend to a kworker.

I haven't forgotten about this problem and I still plan to look into why
the long delay, particularly focusing on the scheduling latency from
tty_flip_buffer_push() => flush_to_ldisc().

Regards,
Peter Hurley

>> Which raises 2 questions:
>> 1. What are the termios settings of the tty receiving input? Is it 'raw'
>>    mode or typical terminal mode (icanon, echo, etc.) or something else?
> In my test code, I open the tty like
>   fd = open("/dev/ttyACM0", O_RDWR | O_NOCTTY | O_NONBLOCK);
> I don't make any other changes to the default settings. To be honest,
> I'm not sure in which mode it is operating then (I was assuming raw, but
> I might be wrong?).
> 
>> 2. Are there RT threads that are hogging cpu time?
> I can't see any, I think the only thing which occasionally goes to RT is
> pulseaudio (but during at least some of the tests I wasn't even playing
> audio, so that sounds very unplausible to me). I also cannot see a
> correlation between failure rate and CPU load.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sven
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-05 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-19 21:37 [PATCH] Fix data loss in cdc-acm Sven Brauch
2015-07-20 17:25 ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-20 18:07   ` Sven Brauch
2015-07-21  9:18     ` Johan Hovold
2015-07-21 16:45       ` Peter Hurley
2015-07-21 16:45         ` Peter Hurley
2015-07-22  8:40         ` Oliver Neukum
2015-07-22 14:30           ` Peter Hurley
2015-07-22 15:01             ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]               ` <1437577303.5445.7.camel-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-05  0:26                 ` Peter Hurley
2015-08-05  0:26                   ` Peter Hurley
2015-07-21 13:43     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]       ` <1437486195.3823.13.camel-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-21 21:43         ` Sven Brauch
2015-07-21 21:43           ` Sven Brauch
2015-07-21 23:34           ` Peter Hurley
2015-07-22  0:47             ` Sven Brauch
2015-07-22 22:12               ` Peter Hurley
2015-07-22 22:53                 ` Sven Brauch
2015-07-27 10:00                   ` Peter Stuge
     [not found]                   ` <55B01EDE.3050503-ITmcY+a7/CDoK6nBLMlh1Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-05 17:36                     ` Peter Hurley [this message]
2015-08-05 17:36                       ` Peter Hurley
     [not found]                       ` <55C249A3.6030809-WaGBZJeGNqdsbIuE7sb01tBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-20 18:16                         ` Peter Hurley
2015-10-20 18:16                           ` Peter Hurley
2015-10-21 10:12                           ` Oliver Neukum
2015-10-21 12:09                             ` Peter Hurley
2015-10-21 14:58                               ` Peter Hurley

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=55C249A3.6030809@hurleysoftware.com \
    --to=peter-wagbzjegnqdsbiue7sb01tbpr1lh4cv8@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=gnomes-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=johan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=linux-serial-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=mail-ITmcY+a7/CDoK6nBLMlh1Q@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=oneukum-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=toby.gray-BiNz9QiKYoNBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.