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From: Raymond Jennings <shentino@gmail.com>
To: Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru>, Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
Cc: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert.lkml@gmail.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Andrew Bird (Sphere Systems)" <ajb@spheresystems.co.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: stop breaking dosemu (Re: x86/kconfig/32: Rename CONFIG_VM86 and default it to 'n')
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:46:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55EA1F4E.9090403@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55EA0D8C.1090803@list.ru>

On 09/04/15 14:30, Stas Sergeev wrote:
> 05.09.2015 00:16, Stas Sergeev пишет:
>> I agree. vm86() is a mess.
>> My point is that its risky parts and useless funtionality
>> is _already_ known (even I can point to the particular code
>> parts than can simply be removed). As such, it simply had
>> to be re-visited and cleaned up to match at least 1 and 3
>> (and then maybe 5). This wasn't done, and the knob was
>> introduced _instead_ of doing this.
> Grr, I mean it was disabled by default instead of doing this,
> and the knob was only proposed, not added.

You can't just pull vm86 out of the kernel anyway.  dosemu is a 
userspace application that depends on it, so pulling this feature out 
would be a big fat regression, period.

I would personally rather not hear about how "it's a legacy program so 
its userbase is shrinking" used as any sort of excuse to ignore the fact 
that we shouldn't break userspace.

I can even say as a user that vm86 is important to me.

By all means, cleaning up vm86 is a good idea.  But removing it or 
fencing it off with a strong deprecation doesn't sound like the right idea.
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-04 22:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-02  9:37 stop breaking dosemu (Re: x86/kconfig/32: Rename CONFIG_VM86 and default it to 'n') Stas Sergeev
2015-09-02 14:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-02 15:31   ` Kees Cook
2015-09-02 17:30   ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-02 17:46   ` Josh Boyer
2015-09-02 17:50     ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-02 20:22       ` Josh Boyer
2015-09-02 20:47         ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-02 20:55           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-02 20:59             ` Josh Boyer
2015-09-02 21:12             ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-02 21:40               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-02 21:53                 ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-03 12:11                   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-03 12:15                     ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-03 15:44                       ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-03 16:34                         ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-03 18:51                           ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-03 21:28                             ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-04 10:09                               ` Chuck Ebbert
2015-09-04 10:46                                 ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-04 12:34                                   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-04 13:06                                     ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-04 19:51                                       ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-04 21:16                                         ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-04 21:30                                           ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-04 22:46                                             ` Raymond Jennings [this message]
2015-09-04 23:18                                               ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-03 22:39                             ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-03 16:57                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-03 17:19                           ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-03 17:21                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-03 17:34                               ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-03 17:13                         ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-03 12:01               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-03 12:09                 ` Stas Sergeev
2015-09-02 17:52     ` Kees Cook
2015-09-02 20:25       ` Josh Boyer
2015-09-02 18:19     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-02 20:26       ` Josh Boyer

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