From: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
To: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
linux-serial@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Stefan Agner <stefan@agner.ch>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: console vs earlycon ?
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 09:20:38 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56279126.8080506@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK7LNARem16fTim8Ds_y8ezMusz_aRtv6c59KoxyC0rLV-RBWw@mail.gmail.com>
On 10/21/2015 04:21 AM, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> Hi.
>
>
>
>
> I think there are three places where console could be enabled.
>
> [1] earlycon
>
> Each driver entry is declared with
> EARLYCON_DECLARE() or OF_EARLYCON_DECLARE()
>
>
>
> [2] console_init()
>
> Each entry is declared with console_initcall()
>
>
>
> [3] when driver is probed
> The console is usually enabled at this point
> unless some special treatment is done.
>
>
>
>
> My question is about [2].
For 8250 sub-drivers, the console_initcall() is only for legacy
platforms, and not for 8250 ports added via serial8250_register_8250_port().
In this contexts, legacy platforms are:
1. early_serial_setup()
2. platforms that define SERIAL_PORT_DFNS (eg., ISA ports)
At the point where console_initcall() occurs, the 8250 core has _not_
been initialized (ie., serial8250_init() has _not_ run).
> I am using 8250-ish UART device.
>
>
> I noticed univ8250_console_match() and univ8250_console_setup()
> always fail at the point of [2] unless early_serial_setup() has been
> called in advance;
> however, it looks like early_serial_setup() is only used for old platforms.
>
> So, console cannot be enabled at [2] for modern platforms.
Since console_init() => console_initcall() occurs before almost everything,
it's not practical to use for probed drivers.
> My questions are:
>
> - Given that earlycon can be now available for major architectures such ARM,
> [2] will be deprecated at some point in the future?
PPC and x86 platforms still rely on console_init() so it will be some time
before this disappears.
> - I am implementing earlycon for my own UART driver.
> Is it meaningless to implement console_initcall() as well as earlycon?
Probed drivers should only implement earlycon and console. 8250 sub-drivers
should only implement earlycon and/or console if the base 8250 earlycon and/or
console are not operational.
Regards,
Peter Hurley
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From: peter@hurleysoftware.com (Peter Hurley)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: console vs earlycon ?
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 09:20:38 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56279126.8080506@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK7LNARem16fTim8Ds_y8ezMusz_aRtv6c59KoxyC0rLV-RBWw@mail.gmail.com>
On 10/21/2015 04:21 AM, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> Hi.
>
>
>
>
> I think there are three places where console could be enabled.
>
> [1] earlycon
>
> Each driver entry is declared with
> EARLYCON_DECLARE() or OF_EARLYCON_DECLARE()
>
>
>
> [2] console_init()
>
> Each entry is declared with console_initcall()
>
>
>
> [3] when driver is probed
> The console is usually enabled at this point
> unless some special treatment is done.
>
>
>
>
> My question is about [2].
For 8250 sub-drivers, the console_initcall() is only for legacy
platforms, and not for 8250 ports added via serial8250_register_8250_port().
In this contexts, legacy platforms are:
1. early_serial_setup()
2. platforms that define SERIAL_PORT_DFNS (eg., ISA ports)
At the point where console_initcall() occurs, the 8250 core has _not_
been initialized (ie., serial8250_init() has _not_ run).
> I am using 8250-ish UART device.
>
>
> I noticed univ8250_console_match() and univ8250_console_setup()
> always fail at the point of [2] unless early_serial_setup() has been
> called in advance;
> however, it looks like early_serial_setup() is only used for old platforms.
>
> So, console cannot be enabled at [2] for modern platforms.
Since console_init() => console_initcall() occurs before almost everything,
it's not practical to use for probed drivers.
> My questions are:
>
> - Given that earlycon can be now available for major architectures such ARM,
> [2] will be deprecated at some point in the future?
PPC and x86 platforms still rely on console_init() so it will be some time
before this disappears.
> - I am implementing earlycon for my own UART driver.
> Is it meaningless to implement console_initcall() as well as earlycon?
Probed drivers should only implement earlycon and console. 8250 sub-drivers
should only implement earlycon and/or console if the base 8250 earlycon and/or
console are not operational.
Regards,
Peter Hurley
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-21 13:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-21 8:21 console vs earlycon ? Masahiro Yamada
2015-10-21 8:21 ` Masahiro Yamada
2015-10-21 8:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 8:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 9:09 ` Masahiro Yamada
2015-10-21 9:09 ` Masahiro Yamada
2015-10-21 9:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 9:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 9:30 ` Masahiro Yamada
2015-10-21 9:30 ` Masahiro Yamada
2015-10-21 10:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 10:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 13:53 ` Peter Hurley
2015-10-21 13:53 ` Peter Hurley
2015-10-21 14:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 14:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 15:32 ` Peter Hurley
2015-10-21 15:32 ` Peter Hurley
2015-10-21 19:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 19:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 19:24 ` Peter Hurley
2015-10-21 19:24 ` Peter Hurley
2015-10-21 22:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 22:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 13:20 ` Peter Hurley [this message]
2015-10-21 13:20 ` Peter Hurley
2015-10-22 4:47 ` Masahiro Yamada
2015-10-22 4:47 ` Masahiro Yamada
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