* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
@ 2015-10-26 19:38 ` Gary Thomas
2015-10-26 20:08 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
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From: Gary Thomas @ 2015-10-26 19:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel
On 2015-10-26 13:18, Cliff Brake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? __5+ years___
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [ X ] product development
> [ X ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [ ] Angstrom
> [ X ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ ] Git submodules
> [ X ] Repo
> [ ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ X ] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ X ] Qt
> [ X ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ ] systemd
> [ X ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [ X ] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ X ] devshell
> [ X ] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ ] C
> [ ] C++
> [ X ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [ ] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> ___None at this time ____________________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
>
--
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Gary Thomas | Consulting for the
MLB Associates | Embedded world
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2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
@ 2015-10-26 20:08 ` Martin Jansa
2015-10-26 20:08 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
` (17 subsequent siblings)
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From: Martin Jansa @ 2015-10-26 20:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel; +Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 03:18:54PM -0400, Cliff Brake wrote:
> How long have you been using OE?
+= 10 years (more actively for last 6 years)
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
[ X ] product development
[ X ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
> What distro do you use?
[ ] Poky
[ ] Angstrom
[ X ] nodistro or custom
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
[ ] Git submodules
[ ] Repo
[ X ] Other
> What packaging system?
[ X ] OPKG
[ ] RPM
[ ] Other
> What GUI toolkits?
[ X ] Qt
[ X ] Gtk
[ X ] EFL
[ X ] HTML5/JS
[ ] Other
> What init system?
[ X ] systemd
[ ] sysvinit
[ ] busybox init
[ X ] Other (upstart)
> What libc?
[ X ] glibc
[ ] uclibc
[ ] musl
[ ] Other
> How do you develop custom applications?
[ ] application-SDK
[ X ] devshell
[ X ] develop on PC, test on target
[ ] Other
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
[ X ] C
[ X ] C++
[ ] Python
[ X ] Javascript
[ ] Lua
[ ] Other
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
[ ] Buildbot
[ X ] Jenkins
[ ] Other
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
No
--
Martin 'JaMa' Jansa jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com
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@ 2015-10-26 20:08 ` Martin Jansa
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From: Martin Jansa @ 2015-10-26 20:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel; +Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 03:18:54PM -0400, Cliff Brake wrote:
> How long have you been using OE?
+= 10 years (more actively for last 6 years)
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
[ X ] product development
[ X ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
> What distro do you use?
[ ] Poky
[ ] Angstrom
[ X ] nodistro or custom
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
[ ] Git submodules
[ ] Repo
[ X ] Other
> What packaging system?
[ X ] OPKG
[ ] RPM
[ ] Other
> What GUI toolkits?
[ X ] Qt
[ X ] Gtk
[ X ] EFL
[ X ] HTML5/JS
[ ] Other
> What init system?
[ X ] systemd
[ ] sysvinit
[ ] busybox init
[ X ] Other (upstart)
> What libc?
[ X ] glibc
[ ] uclibc
[ ] musl
[ ] Other
> How do you develop custom applications?
[ ] application-SDK
[ X ] devshell
[ X ] develop on PC, test on target
[ ] Other
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
[ X ] C
[ X ] C++
[ ] Python
[ X ] Javascript
[ ] Lua
[ ] Other
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
[ ] Buildbot
[ X ] Jenkins
[ ] Other
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
No
--
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* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
2015-10-26 19:38 ` Gary Thomas
2015-10-26 20:08 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
@ 2015-10-26 20:17 ` Brian Hutchinson
2015-10-26 23:04 ` [oe] " Andreas Müller
` (15 subsequent siblings)
18 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Brian Hutchinson @ 2015-10-26 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Cliff Brake <cbrake@bec-systems.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? _____
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [x] product development
> [x] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [x] Poky
> [x] Angstrom
> [ ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ ] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [x] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [x] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [x] Other - console image - no GUI
>
> What init system?
> [x] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [x] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [ ] develop on PC, test on target
> [x] Other -c populate_sdk
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [x] C
> [x] C++
> [x] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [x] Other - bash scripts
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [x] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
Playing with Toaster but typically use command line to generate my
rootfs and a toolchain/sdk then application developers use
toolchain/sdk to develop app.
Regards,
Brian
Commscope Inc.
Forest, VA
>
> _______________________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Openembedded-devel mailing list
> Openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
> http://lists.openembedded.org/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
@ 2015-10-26 23:04 ` Andreas Müller
2015-10-26 20:08 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
` (17 subsequent siblings)
18 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Müller @ 2015-10-26 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; +Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Cliff Brake <cbrake@bec-systems.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? _____
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [x] product development
> [x] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [x] Angstrom
> [ ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [x] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [x] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [x] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [x] Qt
> [x] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [x] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [x] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [x] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [x] C
> [x] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [x] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> _______________________
Andreas
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@ 2015-10-26 23:04 ` Andreas Müller
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From: Andreas Müller @ 2015-10-26 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; +Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Cliff Brake <cbrake@bec-systems.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? _____
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [x] product development
> [x] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [x] Angstrom
> [ ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [x] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [x] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [x] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [x] Qt
> [x] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [x] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [x] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [x] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [x] C
> [x] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [x] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> _______________________
Andreas
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* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2015-10-26 23:04 ` [oe] " Andreas Müller
@ 2015-10-27 8:08 ` Marc Reilly
2015-10-27 8:12 ` Christian Ege
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18 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Marc Reilly @ 2015-10-27 8:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel
Hi Cliff,
On Monday, October 26, 2015 03:18:54 PM Cliff Brake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? _3 years
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [ x] product development
> [ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [x ] Angstrom
> [x ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ ] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [x ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ x ] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ x ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ x ] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [ x ] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ x ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [x ] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ ] C
> [ x ] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [ x ] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> _______________________
None.
We've not modified our initial product image for a few years now, apart from
our specific app, so I haven't had any time to play with these newer tools.
HTH,
Cheers,
Marc
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2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
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2015-10-27 8:08 ` Marc Reilly
@ 2015-10-27 8:12 ` Christian Ege
2015-10-27 8:33 ` [oe] " Roberto Fichera
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18 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Christian Ege @ 2015-10-27 8:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? __3 years___
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [X] product development
> [X] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [X] Poky
> [ ] Angstrom
> [X] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [X] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [X] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [X] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [X] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [X] systemd
> [X] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [X] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [ ] develop on PC, test on target
> [X] bitbake <image> -c populate_sdk
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [X] C
> [X] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [X] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [X] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> __NONE_____________________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Openembedded-devel mailing list
> Openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
> http://lists.openembedded.org/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel
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2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
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2015-10-27 8:12 ` Christian Ege
@ 2015-10-27 8:33 ` Roberto Fichera
2015-10-27 8:40 ` Alex J Lennon
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From: Roberto Fichera @ 2015-10-27 8:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: yocto@yoctoproject.org
On 10/26/2015 08:18 PM, Cliff Brake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? _____
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [ X ] product development
> [ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ X ] Poky
> [ ] Angstrom
> [ ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ X ] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [ ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ ] OPKG
> [ X ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ X ] Qt
> [ X ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ X ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ ] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ X ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [ X ] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [ X ] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ X ] C
> [ X ] C++
> [ X ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ X ] Buildbot
> [ ] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
bitbake
>
> _______________________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
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2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
@ 2015-10-27 8:40 ` Alex J Lennon
2015-10-26 20:08 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
` (17 subsequent siblings)
18 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Alex J Lennon @ 2015-10-27 8:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Cliff Brake, openembedded-devel, yocto@yoctoproject.org
On 26/10/2015 19:18, Cliff Brake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? _____
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [X ] product development
> [X ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [X ] Poky
> [ ] Angstrom
> [ ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ ] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [X ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ ] OPKG
> [X ] RPM
> [X ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [X ] HTML5/JS
> [X ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ ] systemd
> [X ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [X ] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [X ] devshell
> [X ] develop on PC, test on target
> [X ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [X ] C
> [ ] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [X ] Other
>
Visual Studio C# .NET + Mono
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [ ] Jenkins
> [X ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
No
> _______________________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
@ 2015-10-27 8:40 ` Alex J Lennon
0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Alex J Lennon @ 2015-10-27 8:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Cliff Brake, openembedded-devel, yocto@yoctoproject.org
On 26/10/2015 19:18, Cliff Brake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? _____
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [X ] product development
> [X ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [X ] Poky
> [ ] Angstrom
> [ ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ ] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [X ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ ] OPKG
> [X ] RPM
> [X ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [X ] HTML5/JS
> [X ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ ] systemd
> [X ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [X ] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [X ] devshell
> [X ] develop on PC, test on target
> [X ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [X ] C
> [ ] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [X ] Other
>
Visual Studio C# .NET + Mono
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [ ] Jenkins
> [X ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
No
> _______________________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
` (7 preceding siblings ...)
2015-10-27 8:40 ` Alex J Lennon
@ 2015-10-27 9:12 ` Andrei Gherzan
2015-10-27 16:35 ` [oe] " Stephano Cetola
` (9 subsequent siblings)
18 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Andrei Gherzan @ 2015-10-27 9:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded
--
Andrei Gherzan
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Cliff Brake <cbrake@bec-systems.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? __4__
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [ X] product development
> [ X] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ X] Poky
> [ ] Angstrom
> [ X] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ ] Git submodules
> [ X] Repo
> [ ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ ] OPKG
> [ X] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ X] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ X] systemd
> [ X] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [ X] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [ X] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ X] C
> [ ] C++
> [ X] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [ X] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> _no____________________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Openembedded-devel mailing list
> Openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
> http://lists.openembedded.org/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
@ 2015-10-27 16:35 ` Stephano Cetola
2015-10-26 20:08 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
` (17 subsequent siblings)
18 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Stephano Cetola @ 2015-10-27 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel; +Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org
On 10/26, Cliff Brake wrote:
> How long have you been using OE?
~3 years
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
[ X ] product development
[ X ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
> What distro do you use?
[ ] Poky
[ ] Angstrom
[ X ] nodistro or custom (Based on Poky)
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
[ ] Git submodules
[ X ] Repo
[ X ] Other (Customer Python scripts)
> What packaging system?
[ ] OPKG
[ ] RPM
[ X ] Other (IPK)
> What GUI toolkits?
[ X ] Qt
[ X ] Gtk
[ ] EFL
[ X ] HTML5/JS
[ ] Other
Our clients develop in QML.
> What init system?
[ ] systemd
[ X ] sysvinit
[ X ] busybox init
[ ] Other
> What libc?
[ X ] glibc
[ ] uclibc
[ ] musl
[ ] Other
> How do you develop custom applications?
[ ] application-SDK
[ X ] devshell
[ X ] develop on PC, test on target
[ ] Other
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
[ X ] C
[ X ] C++
[ ] Python
[ ] Javascript
[ ] Lua
[ ] Other
Qt for C++
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
[ ] Buildbot
[ X ] Jenkins
[ ] Other
Tried buildbot but it required too much customization for our small
team.
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
No
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread* Re: [oe] OE/Yocto developer survey
@ 2015-10-27 16:35 ` Stephano Cetola
0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Stephano Cetola @ 2015-10-27 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel; +Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org
On 10/26, Cliff Brake wrote:
> How long have you been using OE?
~3 years
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
[ X ] product development
[ X ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
> What distro do you use?
[ ] Poky
[ ] Angstrom
[ X ] nodistro or custom (Based on Poky)
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
[ ] Git submodules
[ X ] Repo
[ X ] Other (Customer Python scripts)
> What packaging system?
[ ] OPKG
[ ] RPM
[ X ] Other (IPK)
> What GUI toolkits?
[ X ] Qt
[ X ] Gtk
[ ] EFL
[ X ] HTML5/JS
[ ] Other
Our clients develop in QML.
> What init system?
[ ] systemd
[ X ] sysvinit
[ X ] busybox init
[ ] Other
> What libc?
[ X ] glibc
[ ] uclibc
[ ] musl
[ ] Other
> How do you develop custom applications?
[ ] application-SDK
[ X ] devshell
[ X ] develop on PC, test on target
[ ] Other
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
[ X ] C
[ X ] C++
[ ] Python
[ ] Javascript
[ ] Lua
[ ] Other
Qt for C++
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
[ ] Buildbot
[ X ] Jenkins
[ ] Other
Tried buildbot but it required too much customization for our small
team.
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
No
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
@ 2015-10-28 7:32 ` Chris Morgan
2015-10-26 20:08 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
` (17 subsequent siblings)
18 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Chris Morgan @ 2015-10-28 7:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel; +Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Cliff Brake <cbrake@bec-systems.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? 3 years_____
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [x] product development
> [ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [ ] Angstrom
> [ x ] nodistro or custom (based on poky)
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [x] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [ ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ ] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [x] Other (none, just a single output fs)
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ x ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ x ] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [ x ] glibc (I think, we don't appear to override DISTRO_FEATURES_LIBC)
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [ x ] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ x ] C
> [ x ] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ x ] Buildbot
> [ ] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> _______________________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
Company name currently withheld. Yocto being used to build the
software image for a consumer hardware product.
Chris
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread* Re: [oe] OE/Yocto developer survey
@ 2015-10-28 7:32 ` Chris Morgan
0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Chris Morgan @ 2015-10-28 7:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel; +Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Cliff Brake <cbrake@bec-systems.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? 3 years_____
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [x] product development
> [ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [ ] Angstrom
> [ x ] nodistro or custom (based on poky)
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [x] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [ ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ ] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [x] Other (none, just a single output fs)
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ x ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ x ] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [ x ] glibc (I think, we don't appear to override DISTRO_FEATURES_LIBC)
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [ x ] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ x ] C
> [ x ] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ x ] Buildbot
> [ ] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> _______________________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
Company name currently withheld. Yocto being used to build the
software image for a consumer hardware product.
Chris
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
@ 2015-10-29 5:09 ` Sven Ebenfeld
2015-10-26 20:08 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
` (17 subsequent siblings)
18 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Sven Ebenfeld @ 2015-10-29 5:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel, yocto@yoctoproject.org
Am 26.10.2015 um 20:18 schrieb Cliff Brake:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? __2012__
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [ x] product development
> [ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [ x] Angstrom
> [ ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ ] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [ x] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ x] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
> [ x] None
>
> What init system?
> [ x] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [ x] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [ x] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ x] C
> [ ] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ x] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [ x] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> _____________No________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread* Re: [oe] OE/Yocto developer survey
@ 2015-10-29 5:09 ` Sven Ebenfeld
0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Sven Ebenfeld @ 2015-10-29 5:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel, yocto@yoctoproject.org
Am 26.10.2015 um 20:18 schrieb Cliff Brake:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? __2012__
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [ x] product development
> [ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [ x] Angstrom
> [ ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ ] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [ x] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ x] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
> [ x] None
>
> What init system?
> [ x] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [ x] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [ x] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ x] C
> [ ] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ x] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [ x] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> _____________No________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
` (11 preceding siblings ...)
2015-10-29 5:09 ` [oe] " Sven Ebenfeld
@ 2015-10-29 6:01 ` 彥瑾
2015-10-29 11:59 ` Anders Darander
` (5 subsequent siblings)
18 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: 彥瑾 @ 2015-10-29 6:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel
How long have you been using OE? __3 years _
How do you use OE/Yocto?
[X] product development
[ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
What distro do you use?
[ ] Poky
[ ] Angstrom
[X] nodistro or custom
How do you organize multiple git repos?
[ ] Git submodules
[X] Repo
[ ] Other
What packaging system?
[X] OPKG
[ ] RPM
[ ] Other
What GUI toolkits?
[X] Qt
[ ] Gtk
[ ] EFL
[ ] HTML5/JS
[ ] Other
What init system?
[ ] systemd
[ ] sysvinit
[X] busybox init
[ ] Other
What libc?
[X] glibc
[ ] uclibc
[ ] musl
[ ] Other
How do you develop custom applications?
[ ] application-SDK
[ ] devshell
[X] develop on PC, test on target
[ ] Other
What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
[ ] C
[X] C++
[ ] Python
[ ] Javascript
[ ] Lua
[ ] Other
What do you use for Continuous Integration?
[ ] Buildbot
[X] Jenkins
[ ] Other
Do you use any any of the tooling projects
(https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
Hob, Toaster, etc?
Toaster
2015-10-27 3:18 GMT+08:00 Cliff Brake <cbrake@bec-systems.com>:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? _____
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [ ] product development
> [ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [ ] Angstrom
> [ ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ ] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [ ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ ] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ ] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [ ] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [ ] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ ] C
> [ ] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [ ] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> _______________________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Openembedded-devel mailing list
> Openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
> http://lists.openembedded.org/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
` (12 preceding siblings ...)
2015-10-29 6:01 ` 彥瑾
@ 2015-10-29 11:59 ` Anders Darander
2015-10-29 14:36 ` Changhyeok Bae
2015-10-29 17:09 ` [oe] " Nicolas Aguirre
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18 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread
From: Anders Darander @ 2015-10-29 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel
How long have you been using OE? 6 years
How do you use OE/Yocto?
[ x ] product development
[ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
What distro do you use?
[ ] Poky
[ ] Angstrom
[ x ] nodistro or custom
How do you organize multiple git repos?
[ x ] Git submodules
[ ] Repo
[ ] Other
What packaging system?
[ x ] OPKG
[ ] RPM
[ ] Other
What GUI toolkits?
[ x ] Qt
[ ] Gtk
[ ] EFL
[ ] HTML5/JS
[ ] Other
What init system?
[ x ] systemd
[ ] sysvinit
[ x ] busybox init
[ ] Other
What libc?
[ x ] glibc
[ ] uclibc
[ ] musl
[ ] Other
How do you develop custom applications?
[ x ] application-SDK
[ ] devshell
[ x ] develop on PC, test on target
[ ] Other
What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
[ x ] C
[ x ] C++
[ ] Python
[ ] Javascript
[ ] Lua
[ ] Other
What do you use for Continuous Integration?
[ ] Buildbot
[ x ] Jenkins
[ ] Other
Do you use any any of the tooling projects
(https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
Hob, Toaster, etc? None yet.
--
Anders Darander
ChargeStorm AB / eStorm AB
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2015-10-29 11:59 ` Anders Darander
@ 2015-10-29 14:36 ` Changhyeok Bae
0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Changhyeok Bae @ 2015-10-29 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel
How long have you been using OE? __3___
How do you use OE/Yocto?
[X] product development
[ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
What distro do you use?
[X] Poky
[ ] Angstrom
[X] nodistro or custom
How do you organize multiple git repos?
[ ] Git submodules
[ ] Repo
[X] Other
What packaging system?
[X] OPKG
[X] RPM
[ ] Other
What GUI toolkits?
[X] Qt
[ ] Gtk
[ ] EFL
[ ] HTML5/JS
[ ] Other
What init system?
[X] systemd
[ ] sysvinit
[ ] busybox init
[X] Other
What libc?
[X] glibc
[ ] uclibc
[ ] musl
[ ] Other
How do you develop custom applications?
[ ] application-SDK
[ ] devshell
[X] develop on PC, test on target
[ ] Other
What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
[ ] C
[ ] C++
[ ] Python
[ ] Javascript
[ ] Lua
[X] Other
What do you use for Continuous Integration?
[ ] Buildbot
[X] Jenkins
[ ] Other
Do you use any any of the tooling projects
(https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
Hob, Toaster, etc?
2015-10-29 20:59 GMT+09:00 Anders Darander <anders@chargestorm.se>:
>
> How long have you been using OE? 6 years
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [ x ] product development
> [ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [ ] Angstrom
> [ x ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ x ] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [ ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ x ] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ x ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ x ] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ x ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [ x ] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ x ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [ x ] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ x ] C
> [ x ] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [ x ] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc? None yet.
>
> --
> Anders Darander
> ChargeStorm AB / eStorm AB
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Openembedded-devel mailing list
> Openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
> http://lists.openembedded.org/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel
>
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* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
@ 2015-10-29 17:09 ` Nicolas Aguirre
2015-10-26 20:08 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
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From: Nicolas Aguirre @ 2015-10-29 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel; +Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org
2015-10-26 20:18 GMT+01:00 Cliff Brake <cbrake@bec-systems.com>:
> Hi,
>
How long have you been using OE? 5 years
How do you use OE/Yocto?
[x] product development
[x] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
What distro do you use?
[ ] Poky
[ ] Angstrom
[x] nodistro or custom
How do you organize multiple git repos?
[ ] Git submodules
[ ] Repo
[x] Other
What packaging system?
[x] OPKG
[ ] RPM
[ ] Other
What GUI toolkits?
[x] Qt
[ ] Gtk
[x] EFL
[ ] HTML5/JS
[ ] Other
What init system?
[x] systemd
[ ] sysvinit
[ ] busybox init
[ ] Other
What libc?
[x] glibc
[ ] uclibc
[ ] musl
[ ] Other
How do you develop custom applications?
[x] application-SDK
[ ] devshell
[ ] develop on PC, test on target
[ ] Other
What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
[x] C
[x] C++
[ ] Python
[ ] Javascript
[ ] Lua
[ ] Other
What do you use for Continuous Integration?
[ ] Buildbot
[x] Jenkins
[ ] Other
--
Nicolas Aguirre
Mail: aguirre.nicolas@gmail.com
Web: http://www.calaos.fr
Blog: http://dev.enlightenment.fr/~captainigloo/
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@ 2015-10-29 17:09 ` Nicolas Aguirre
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From: Nicolas Aguirre @ 2015-10-29 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel; +Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org
2015-10-26 20:18 GMT+01:00 Cliff Brake <cbrake@bec-systems.com>:
> Hi,
>
How long have you been using OE? 5 years
How do you use OE/Yocto?
[x] product development
[x] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
What distro do you use?
[ ] Poky
[ ] Angstrom
[x] nodistro or custom
How do you organize multiple git repos?
[ ] Git submodules
[ ] Repo
[x] Other
What packaging system?
[x] OPKG
[ ] RPM
[ ] Other
What GUI toolkits?
[x] Qt
[ ] Gtk
[x] EFL
[ ] HTML5/JS
[ ] Other
What init system?
[x] systemd
[ ] sysvinit
[ ] busybox init
[ ] Other
What libc?
[x] glibc
[ ] uclibc
[ ] musl
[ ] Other
How do you develop custom applications?
[x] application-SDK
[ ] devshell
[ ] develop on PC, test on target
[ ] Other
What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
[x] C
[x] C++
[ ] Python
[ ] Javascript
[ ] Lua
[ ] Other
What do you use for Continuous Integration?
[ ] Buildbot
[x] Jenkins
[ ] Other
--
Nicolas Aguirre
Mail: aguirre.nicolas@gmail.com
Web: http://www.calaos.fr
Blog: http://dev.enlightenment.fr/~captainigloo/
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* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
` (14 preceding siblings ...)
2015-10-29 17:09 ` [oe] " Nicolas Aguirre
@ 2015-11-07 0:06 ` Phil Blundell
2015-11-12 12:06 ` Cliff Brake
2015-11-12 16:10 ` Alejandro del Castillo
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18 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread
From: Phil Blundell @ 2015-11-07 0:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel
(Better late than never...)
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 15:18 -0400, Cliff Brake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? 11 years
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [X ] product development
> [ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [ ] Angstrom
> [X ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [X ] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [ ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [X ] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [X ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ ] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [X ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [X ] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [X ] devshell
> [X ] develop on PC, test on target
> [X ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ ] C
> [X ] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [X ] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> No.
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
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2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
` (15 preceding siblings ...)
2015-11-07 0:06 ` Phil Blundell
@ 2015-11-12 16:10 ` Alejandro del Castillo
2015-11-13 10:19 ` [oe] " Steffen Sledz
2015-11-18 15:26 ` Cliff Brake
18 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Alejandro del Castillo @ 2015-11-12 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel
> How long have you been using OE? __4 years__
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [X] product development
> [ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [ ] Angstrom
> [X] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [X] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [ ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [X] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ ] systemd
> [X] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [X] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [X] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [X C
> [X] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [X] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> __Toaster_(analysis)___________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
>
--
Cheers,
Alejandro
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2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
@ 2015-11-13 10:19 ` Steffen Sledz
2015-10-26 20:08 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
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From: Steffen Sledz @ 2015-11-13 10:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel, yocto@yoctoproject.org, Cliff Brake
On 26.10.2015 20:18, Cliff Brake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? _2008_
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [ X ] product development
> [ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [ X ] Angstrom
> [ X ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ X ] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [ ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ X ] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ X ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ X ] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [ X ] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ X ] devshell
> [ ] develop on PC, test on target
> [ X ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ X ] C
> [ ] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [ X ] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> _no_
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
--
DResearch Fahrzeugelektronik GmbH
Otto-Schmirgal-Str. 3, 10319 Berlin, Germany
Tel: +49 30 515932-237 mailto:sledz@dresearch-fe.de
Fax: +49 30 515932-299
Geschäftsführer: Dr. Michael Weber, Werner Mögle;
Amtsgericht Berlin Charlottenburg; HRB 130120 B;
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@ 2015-11-13 10:19 ` Steffen Sledz
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From: Steffen Sledz @ 2015-11-13 10:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel, yocto@yoctoproject.org, Cliff Brake
On 26.10.2015 20:18, Cliff Brake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? _2008_
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [ X ] product development
> [ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [ X ] Angstrom
> [ X ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ X ] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [ ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ X ] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ X ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ X ] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [ X ] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ X ] devshell
> [ ] develop on PC, test on target
> [ X ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ X ] C
> [ ] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [ X ] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> _no_
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
--
DResearch Fahrzeugelektronik GmbH
Otto-Schmirgal-Str. 3, 10319 Berlin, Germany
Tel: +49 30 515932-237 mailto:sledz@dresearch-fe.de
Fax: +49 30 515932-299
Geschäftsführer: Dr. Michael Weber, Werner Mögle;
Amtsgericht Berlin Charlottenburg; HRB 130120 B;
Ust.-IDNr. DE273952058
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* Re: OE/Yocto developer survey
2015-10-26 19:18 OE/Yocto developer survey Cliff Brake
` (17 preceding siblings ...)
2015-11-13 10:19 ` [oe] " Steffen Sledz
@ 2015-11-18 15:26 ` Cliff Brake
18 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Cliff Brake @ 2015-11-18 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-devel, yocto@yoctoproject.org
Still formatting the results, but should reply with the usage I've
seen. Below is a profile of 5 customers who are actively using OE in
products:
#1: 6yrs, Angstrom, git subm, OPKG, GTK, systemd, glibc, C++, Jenkins, no tools
#2: 2yrs, Angstrom, git subm, OPKG, HTML/JS, systemd, glibc, C++/JS,
no CI, no tools
#3: 2yrs, nodistro/custom, git subm, OPKG, no GUI, sysvinit, musl,
Lua/C, no CI, no tools
#4: 3yrs, Angstrom, git subm, OPKG, no GUI, systemd, glibc, C++/TCL,
no CI, no tools
#5: 5yrs, Angstrom & custom, git subm, OPKG, Qt, sysvinit, gllibc,
C++, no CI, no tools
All customers primarily develop apps on PC/test on target. One is
using OE generated SDK's.
Most new projects I do will be moving from Angstrom to nodisto/custom distro.
musl has been working great on one project, so expect to use that more
in the future.
Thanks,
Cliff
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Cliff Brake <cbrake@bec-systems.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions -- feel free
> to respond to list, or directly to me, and I'll withhold your
> name/company from any results.
>
> I would like to collect feedback until 2015-11-02, and will summarize
> the results after that.
>
> My goal with this survey is to get a sense for best practices and what
> is most commonly used among Yocto/OE developers so I can better advise
> clients using Yocto/OE. Hopefully this will also generate some
> interesting discussions.
>
> How long have you been using OE? _____
>
> How do you use OE/Yocto?
> [ ] product development
> [ ] hobby/research/education/yocto core developer, etc
>
> What distro do you use?
> [ ] Poky
> [ ] Angstrom
> [ ] nodistro or custom
>
> How do you organize multiple git repos?
> [ ] Git submodules
> [ ] Repo
> [ ] Other
>
> What packaging system?
> [ ] OPKG
> [ ] RPM
> [ ] Other
>
> What GUI toolkits?
> [ ] Qt
> [ ] Gtk
> [ ] EFL
> [ ] HTML5/JS
> [ ] Other
>
> What init system?
> [ ] systemd
> [ ] sysvinit
> [ ] busybox init
> [ ] Other
>
> What libc?
> [ ] glibc
> [ ] uclibc
> [ ] musl
> [ ] Other
>
> How do you develop custom applications?
> [ ] application-SDK
> [ ] devshell
> [ ] develop on PC, test on target
> [ ] Other
>
> What language do you primarily use for custom applications?
> [ ] C
> [ ] C++
> [ ] Python
> [ ] Javascript
> [ ] Lua
> [ ] Other
>
> What do you use for Continuous Integration?
> [ ] Buildbot
> [ ] Jenkins
> [ ] Other
>
> Do you use any any of the tooling projects
> (https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects) such as ADT,
> Hob, Toaster, etc?
>
> _______________________
>
> Reasons or explanations are appreciated, and please feel free to
> include additional choices/information you think are relevant.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
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