From: Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com (Vineet Gupta)
To: linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org
Subject: "compatible" and "model" properties in .dts for ARC boards
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 17:48:48 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <564B1B28.5090403@synopsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <563C8788.9090301@openwrt.org>
On Friday 06 November 2015 04:27 PM, Jonas Gorski wrote:
> On 06.11.2015 09:59, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Friday 06 November 2015 04:45:24 Vineet Gupta wrote:
>>>>
>>>> During OpenWRT upsreaming process one interesting topic was raised.
>>>> See in the middle of https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2015-November/036959.html
>>>>
>>>> In Device Tree descriptions for our boards we don't use "model" property
>>>> even though it is a required one as specified by ePAPR, see
>>>> http://free-electrons.com/~thomas/pub/Power_ePAPR_APPROVED_v1.0.pdf,
>>>> page 39 "Table 3-1 Root node properties".
>>>>
>>>> Instead we put 2 items in "compatible" property.
>>>>
>>>> For example:
>>>> ------------------->8----------------
>>>> compatible = "snps,axs101", "snps,arc-sdp";
>>>> ------------------->8----------------
>>>>
>>>> And from ePAPR standpoint it makes sense to split contents of that "compatible"
>>>> property in 2:
>>>> ------------------->8----------------
>>>> compatible = "snps,arc-sdp";
>>>> model = "snps,axs101";
>>>> ------------------->8----------------
>>>
>>> It seems model is just a descriptive label and we can surely add them to existing DT.
>>> compatible on the other hand is more fundamental used for exact comparisons etc
>>> and follows the vendor,device convention.
>>> It is pretty common for compatible to have multiple strings for exactly the same
>>> reason as I have them here. Both axs101 and axs103 are based on sdp thus we want
>>> the ability to have both pieces of information and use as needed.
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>> The model should also be a human readable name of the machine, just one
>> string like "Synapsys AXS101 Development Board" (or whatever that is called).
>
> This contradicts ePAPR, which says the model's recommended* format is the same as
> the compatible one's (<vendor>,<model>). Most PowerPC and some MIPS dts files
> follow that, while ARM(64) uses the free text form.
>
> To me it looks like the intended usage was
> model = <actual_model>; compatible = <platform>;
> but the actual usage in arm is
> model = <human readable string>; compatible = <actual_model>, <platform>;
>
> Of course for changing this in the existing dts files it might be a bit late, but it
> would be good to decide which of these two is the actually expected format.
>
> It also is a required property, and we have a few boards not having a model property,
> including the example in Documentation/devicetree/usage-model.txt.
>
>
> Jonas
>
> * compatible strings are also only "recommended" to be in that format.
>
Alexey, can u please rework the DT files per Jonas' suggestion above.
Thx,
-Vineet
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From: Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com>
To: Jonas Gorski <jogo@openwrt.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
"Vineet Gupta" <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com>
Cc: Alexey Brodkin <Alexey.Brodkin@synopsys.com>,
"linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: "compatible" and "model" properties in .dts for ARC boards
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 17:48:48 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <564B1B28.5090403@synopsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <563C8788.9090301@openwrt.org>
On Friday 06 November 2015 04:27 PM, Jonas Gorski wrote:
> On 06.11.2015 09:59, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Friday 06 November 2015 04:45:24 Vineet Gupta wrote:
>>>>
>>>> During OpenWRT upsreaming process one interesting topic was raised.
>>>> See in the middle of https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2015-November/036959.html
>>>>
>>>> In Device Tree descriptions for our boards we don't use "model" property
>>>> even though it is a required one as specified by ePAPR, see
>>>> http://free-electrons.com/~thomas/pub/Power_ePAPR_APPROVED_v1.0.pdf,
>>>> page 39 "Table 3-1 Root node properties".
>>>>
>>>> Instead we put 2 items in "compatible" property.
>>>>
>>>> For example:
>>>> ------------------->8----------------
>>>> compatible = "snps,axs101", "snps,arc-sdp";
>>>> ------------------->8----------------
>>>>
>>>> And from ePAPR standpoint it makes sense to split contents of that "compatible"
>>>> property in 2:
>>>> ------------------->8----------------
>>>> compatible = "snps,arc-sdp";
>>>> model = "snps,axs101";
>>>> ------------------->8----------------
>>>
>>> It seems model is just a descriptive label and we can surely add them to existing DT.
>>> compatible on the other hand is more fundamental used for exact comparisons etc
>>> and follows the vendor,device convention.
>>> It is pretty common for compatible to have multiple strings for exactly the same
>>> reason as I have them here. Both axs101 and axs103 are based on sdp thus we want
>>> the ability to have both pieces of information and use as needed.
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>> The model should also be a human readable name of the machine, just one
>> string like "Synapsys AXS101 Development Board" (or whatever that is called).
>
> This contradicts ePAPR, which says the model's recommended* format is the same as
> the compatible one's (<vendor>,<model>). Most PowerPC and some MIPS dts files
> follow that, while ARM(64) uses the free text form.
>
> To me it looks like the intended usage was
> model = <actual_model>; compatible = <platform>;
> but the actual usage in arm is
> model = <human readable string>; compatible = <actual_model>, <platform>;
>
> Of course for changing this in the existing dts files it might be a bit late, but it
> would be good to decide which of these two is the actually expected format.
>
> It also is a required property, and we have a few boards not having a model property,
> including the example in Documentation/devicetree/usage-model.txt.
>
>
> Jonas
>
> * compatible strings are also only "recommended" to be in that format.
>
Alexey, can u please rework the DT files per Jonas' suggestion above.
Thx,
-Vineet
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-17 12:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-05 18:50 "compatible" and "model" properties in .dts for ARC boards Alexey Brodkin
2015-11-06 4:45 ` Vineet Gupta
2015-11-06 4:45 ` Vineet Gupta
2015-11-06 8:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-06 8:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-06 10:57 ` Jonas Gorski
2015-11-06 10:57 ` Jonas Gorski
2015-11-17 12:18 ` Vineet Gupta [this message]
2015-11-17 12:18 ` Vineet Gupta
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