From: yang.shi@linaro.org (Shi, Yang)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] arm64: restore bogomips information in /proc/cpuinfo
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 09:32:14 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5655F09E.1060004@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.20.1511250958370.22569@knanqh.ubzr>
On 11/25/2015 7:16 AM, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, Jon Masters wrote:
>
>> On 11/18/15, 1:15 PM, Yang Shi wrote:
>>
>>> As what Pavel Machek reported [1], some userspace applications depend on
>>> bogomips showed by /proc/cpuinfo.
>>>
>>> Although there is much less legacy impact on aarch64 than arm, but it does
>>> break libvirt.
>>>
>>> Basically, this patch reverts commit
>>> 326b16db9f69fd0d279be873c6c00f88c0a4aad5
>>> ("arm64: delay: don't bother reporting bogomips in /proc/cpuinfo"), but with
>>> some tweak due to context change.
>>
>> On a total tangent, it would be ideal to (eventually) have something reported
>> in /proc/cpuinfo or dmesg during boot that does "accurately" map back to the
>> underlying core frequency (as opposed to the generic timer frequency). I have
>> seen almost countless silly situations in the industry (external to my own
>> organization) in which someone has taken a $VENDOR_X reference system that
>> they're not supposed to run benchmarks on, and they've done it anyway. But
>> usually on some silicon that's clocked multiples under what production would
>> be. Then silly rumors about performance get around because nobody can do
>> simple arithmetic and notice that they ought to have at least divided by some
>> factor.
>
> Be my guest my friend.
>
> According to the common wisdom, the bogomips reporting is completely
> senseless at this point and no one should expect anything useful from
> it. Therefore I attempted to rehabilitate some meaning into it given
> that we just can't get rid of it either and it continues to cause
> dammage. You certainly saw where that has led me.
Or we may create a new one, i.e. "cpu MHz" like x86? Then we keep both
in cpuinfo so that the userspace could adopt it gradually?
Thanks,
Yang
>
>
> Nicolas
>
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From: "Shi, Yang" <yang.shi@linaro.org>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
Jon Masters <jcm@jonmasters.org>
Cc: Will.Deacon@arm.com, Catalin.Marinas@arm.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: restore bogomips information in /proc/cpuinfo
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 09:32:14 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5655F09E.1060004@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.20.1511250958370.22569@knanqh.ubzr>
On 11/25/2015 7:16 AM, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, Jon Masters wrote:
>
>> On 11/18/15, 1:15 PM, Yang Shi wrote:
>>
>>> As what Pavel Machek reported [1], some userspace applications depend on
>>> bogomips showed by /proc/cpuinfo.
>>>
>>> Although there is much less legacy impact on aarch64 than arm, but it does
>>> break libvirt.
>>>
>>> Basically, this patch reverts commit
>>> 326b16db9f69fd0d279be873c6c00f88c0a4aad5
>>> ("arm64: delay: don't bother reporting bogomips in /proc/cpuinfo"), but with
>>> some tweak due to context change.
>>
>> On a total tangent, it would be ideal to (eventually) have something reported
>> in /proc/cpuinfo or dmesg during boot that does "accurately" map back to the
>> underlying core frequency (as opposed to the generic timer frequency). I have
>> seen almost countless silly situations in the industry (external to my own
>> organization) in which someone has taken a $VENDOR_X reference system that
>> they're not supposed to run benchmarks on, and they've done it anyway. But
>> usually on some silicon that's clocked multiples under what production would
>> be. Then silly rumors about performance get around because nobody can do
>> simple arithmetic and notice that they ought to have at least divided by some
>> factor.
>
> Be my guest my friend.
>
> According to the common wisdom, the bogomips reporting is completely
> senseless at this point and no one should expect anything useful from
> it. Therefore I attempted to rehabilitate some meaning into it given
> that we just can't get rid of it either and it continues to cause
> dammage. You certainly saw where that has led me.
Or we may create a new one, i.e. "cpu MHz" like x86? Then we keep both
in cpuinfo so that the userspace could adopt it gradually?
Thanks,
Yang
>
>
> Nicolas
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-25 17:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-18 18:15 [PATCH] arm64: restore bogomips information in /proc/cpuinfo Yang Shi
2015-11-18 18:15 ` Yang Shi
2015-11-18 18:47 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-18 18:47 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-18 18:54 ` Shi, Yang
2015-11-18 18:54 ` Shi, Yang
2015-11-18 21:55 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-18 21:55 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-19 12:20 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-19 12:20 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-25 5:45 ` Jon Masters
2015-11-25 5:45 ` Jon Masters
2015-11-25 11:52 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-11-25 11:52 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-11-25 12:00 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-25 12:00 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-25 12:36 ` Riku Voipio
2015-11-25 12:36 ` Riku Voipio
2015-11-25 15:16 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-25 15:16 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-25 17:32 ` Shi, Yang [this message]
2015-11-25 17:32 ` Shi, Yang
2015-11-25 18:09 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-25 18:09 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-26 10:23 ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2015-11-26 10:23 ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
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2016-01-27 12:14 Will Deacon
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