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From: Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Shayan Pooya <shayan-UQzSddOuLosdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: piping core dump to a program escapes container
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 10:58:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5668EA44.2070203@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <876108fgfq.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>

On 12/09/2015 11:29 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
>> On 12/09/2015 10:26 AM, Dongsheng Yang wrote:
>>> On 10/25/2015 05:54 AM, Shayan Pooya wrote:
>>>> I noticed the following core_pattern behavior in my linux box while
>>>> running docker containers. I am not sure if it is bug, but it is
>>>> inconsistent and not documented.
>>>>
>>>> If the core_pattern is set on the host, the containers will observe
>>>> and use the pattern for dumping cores (there is no per cgroup
>>>> core_pattern). According to core(5) for setting core_pattern one can:
>>>>
>>>> 1. echo "/tmp/cores/core.%e.%p" > /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
>>>> 2. echo "|/bin/custom_core /tmp/cores/ %e %p " >
>>>> /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
>>>>
>>>> The former pattern evaluates the /tmp/cores path in the container's
>>>> filesystem namespace. Which means, the host does not see a core file
>>>> in /tmp/cores.
>>>>
>>>> However, the latter evaluates the /bin/custom_core path in the global
>>>> filesystem namespace. Moreover, if /bin/core decides to write the core
>>>> to a path (/tmp/cores in this case as shown by the arg to
>>>> custom_core), the path will be evaluated in the global filesystem
>>>> namespace as well.
>>>>
>>>> The latter behaviour is counter-intuitive and error-prone as the
>>>> container can fill up the core-file directory which it does not have
>>>> direct access to (which means the core is also not accessible for
>>>> debugging if someone only has access to the container).
>
>>From a container perspective it is perhaps counter intuitive from
> the perspective of the operator of the machine nothing works specially
> about core_pattern and it works as designed with no unusual danages.
>
>>> Hi Shayan,
>>>       We found the same problem with what you described here.
>>> Is there any document for this behaviour? I want to know is
>>> that intentional or as you said a 'bug'. Maybe that's intentional
>>> to provide a way for admin to collect core dumps from all containers as
>>> Richard said. I am interested in it too.
>>>
>>> Anyone can help here?
>>
>> In addition, is that a good idea to make core_pattern to be seperated
>> in different namespace?
>
> The behavior was the best we could do at the time last time this issue
> was examined.    There is enough information available to be able to
> write a core dumping program that can reliably place your core dumps
> in your container.
>
> There has not yet been an obvious namespace in which to stick
> core_pattern, and even worse exactly how to appropriate launch a process
> in a container has not been figured out.

Hi Eric,
	Could you provide an reference to these discussion?? In
addition, is there a already infrastructure to do this kind of thing?

Thanx
Yang
>
> If those tricky problems can be solved we can have a core_pattern in a
> container.  What we have now is the best we have been able to figure out
> so far.
>
> Eric
>
>
>>
>> Yang
>>>
>>> Yang
>>>>
>>>> Currently, I work around this issue by detecting that the process is
>>>> crashing from a container (by comparing the namespace pid to the
>>>> global pid) and refuse to dump the core if it is from a container.
>>>>
>>>> Tested on Ubuntu (kernel 3.16) and Fedora (kernel 4.1).
>>>> --
>>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe cgroups" in
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>
>
> .
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From: Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Shayan Pooya <shayan@liveve.org>, <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	<containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: piping core dump to a program escapes container
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 10:58:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5668EA44.2070203@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <876108fgfq.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On 12/09/2015 11:29 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com> writes:
>
>> On 12/09/2015 10:26 AM, Dongsheng Yang wrote:
>>> On 10/25/2015 05:54 AM, Shayan Pooya wrote:
>>>> I noticed the following core_pattern behavior in my linux box while
>>>> running docker containers. I am not sure if it is bug, but it is
>>>> inconsistent and not documented.
>>>>
>>>> If the core_pattern is set on the host, the containers will observe
>>>> and use the pattern for dumping cores (there is no per cgroup
>>>> core_pattern). According to core(5) for setting core_pattern one can:
>>>>
>>>> 1. echo "/tmp/cores/core.%e.%p" > /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
>>>> 2. echo "|/bin/custom_core /tmp/cores/ %e %p " >
>>>> /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
>>>>
>>>> The former pattern evaluates the /tmp/cores path in the container's
>>>> filesystem namespace. Which means, the host does not see a core file
>>>> in /tmp/cores.
>>>>
>>>> However, the latter evaluates the /bin/custom_core path in the global
>>>> filesystem namespace. Moreover, if /bin/core decides to write the core
>>>> to a path (/tmp/cores in this case as shown by the arg to
>>>> custom_core), the path will be evaluated in the global filesystem
>>>> namespace as well.
>>>>
>>>> The latter behaviour is counter-intuitive and error-prone as the
>>>> container can fill up the core-file directory which it does not have
>>>> direct access to (which means the core is also not accessible for
>>>> debugging if someone only has access to the container).
>
>>From a container perspective it is perhaps counter intuitive from
> the perspective of the operator of the machine nothing works specially
> about core_pattern and it works as designed with no unusual danages.
>
>>> Hi Shayan,
>>>       We found the same problem with what you described here.
>>> Is there any document for this behaviour? I want to know is
>>> that intentional or as you said a 'bug'. Maybe that's intentional
>>> to provide a way for admin to collect core dumps from all containers as
>>> Richard said. I am interested in it too.
>>>
>>> Anyone can help here?
>>
>> In addition, is that a good idea to make core_pattern to be seperated
>> in different namespace?
>
> The behavior was the best we could do at the time last time this issue
> was examined.    There is enough information available to be able to
> write a core dumping program that can reliably place your core dumps
> in your container.
>
> There has not yet been an obvious namespace in which to stick
> core_pattern, and even worse exactly how to appropriate launch a process
> in a container has not been figured out.

Hi Eric,
	Could you provide an reference to these discussion?? In
addition, is there a already infrastructure to do this kind of thing?

Thanx
Yang
>
> If those tricky problems can be solved we can have a core_pattern in a
> container.  What we have now is the best we have been able to figure out
> so far.
>
> Eric
>
>
>>
>> Yang
>>>
>>> Yang
>>>>
>>>> Currently, I work around this issue by detecting that the process is
>>>> crashing from a container (by comparing the namespace pid to the
>>>> global pid) and refuse to dump the core if it is from a container.
>>>>
>>>> Tested on Ubuntu (kernel 3.16) and Fedora (kernel 4.1).
>>>> --
>>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe cgroups" in
>>>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
>>>> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
>>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
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>>> Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/
>>> .
>>>
>
>
> .
>




  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-10  2:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-24 21:54 piping core dump to a program escapes container Shayan Pooya
2015-10-24 21:54 ` Shayan Pooya
     [not found] ` <CABAubTgj8+xngrvc7sNbYS_Hq+-rGAYCz0y433ByiZ45dZuT0w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-01 20:25   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-11-01 20:25     ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]     ` <CAFLxGvz=d=4u7LZ_ZPES_MqfO0kWGxyWE9SPUuONjH9aM=dxFg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-05  4:42       ` Shayan Pooya
2015-11-05  4:42       ` Shayan Pooya
2015-11-05  4:42         ` Shayan Pooya
2015-11-01 20:25   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-12-09  2:26   ` Dongsheng Yang
2015-12-09  2:26     ` Dongsheng Yang
     [not found]     ` <56679161.303-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09  2:36       ` Dongsheng Yang
2015-12-09  2:36         ` Dongsheng Yang
     [not found]         ` <56679399.6080306-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09  3:29           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-12-09  3:29             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <876108fgfq.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09  5:53               ` Dongsheng Yang
2015-12-09  5:53                 ` Dongsheng Yang
     [not found]                 ` <5667C1BC.7070204-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09  6:32                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-12-09  6:32                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-12-09  6:32                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-12-09  8:06                     ` Dongsheng Yang
2015-12-09  8:06                       ` Dongsheng Yang
     [not found]                     ` <87oae0dtd8.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09  8:06                       ` Dongsheng Yang
2015-12-09  8:34               ` Bruno Prémont
2015-12-09  8:34               ` Bruno Prémont
2015-12-09  8:34                 ` Bruno Prémont
     [not found]                 ` <20151209093418.4d28b78c-I2t2yFIzmohO7ya8xxV06g@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-10  0:27                   ` Dongsheng Yang
2015-12-10  0:27                     ` Dongsheng Yang
2015-12-10  0:27                   ` Dongsheng Yang
2015-12-10  2:58               ` Dongsheng Yang [this message]
2015-12-10  2:58                 ` Dongsheng Yang
2015-12-09  3:29           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-12-09  2:36       ` Dongsheng Yang

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