From: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
"linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org>,
Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: use-after-free in sctp_do_sm
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:25:54 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <566ED172.3000906@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D1CBEC96A@AcuExch.aculab.com>
On 12/14/2015 04:50 AM, David Laight wrote:
> From: Vlad Yasevich
>> Sent: 11 December 2015 18:38
> ...
>>> Found a similar place in abort primitive handling like in this last
>>> patch update, it's probably the issue you're still triggering.
>>>
>>> Also found another place that may lead to this use after free, in case
>>> we receive a packet with a chunk that has no data.
>>>
>>> Oh my.. :)
>>
>> Yes. This is what I was worried about... Anything that triggers
>> a DELTE_TCB command has to return a code that we can trap.
>>
>> The other way is to do what Dmitri suggested, but even there, we
>> need to be very careful.
>
> I'm always wary of anything that queues actions up for later processing.
> It is far too easy (as found here) to end up processing actions
> in invalid states, or to process actions in 'unusual' orders when
> specific events happen close together.
>
> I wonder how much fallout there'd be from getting the sctp code
> to immediately action things, instead of queuing the actions for later.
> It would certainly remove a lot of the unusual combinations of events.
>
We've bandied this idea around for a while, but no one has had the time
to tackle this. This would be rather time-consuming task, but in the end
might be a good idea.
-vlad
> David
>
>
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
"linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org>,
Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: use-after-free in sctp_do_sm
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 09:25:54 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <566ED172.3000906@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D1CBEC96A@AcuExch.aculab.com>
On 12/14/2015 04:50 AM, David Laight wrote:
> From: Vlad Yasevich
>> Sent: 11 December 2015 18:38
> ...
>>> Found a similar place in abort primitive handling like in this last
>>> patch update, it's probably the issue you're still triggering.
>>>
>>> Also found another place that may lead to this use after free, in case
>>> we receive a packet with a chunk that has no data.
>>>
>>> Oh my.. :)
>>
>> Yes. This is what I was worried about... Anything that triggers
>> a DELTE_TCB command has to return a code that we can trap.
>>
>> The other way is to do what Dmitri suggested, but even there, we
>> need to be very careful.
>
> I'm always wary of anything that queues actions up for later processing.
> It is far too easy (as found here) to end up processing actions
> in invalid states, or to process actions in 'unusual' orders when
> specific events happen close together.
>
> I wonder how much fallout there'd be from getting the sctp code
> to immediately action things, instead of queuing the actions for later.
> It would certainly remove a lot of the unusual combinations of events.
>
We've bandied this idea around for a while, but no one has had the time
to tackle this. This would be rather time-consuming task, but in the end
might be a good idea.
-vlad
> David
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-14 14:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 153+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-24 9:15 use-after-free in sctp_do_sm Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-24 9:15 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-24 9:31 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-24 9:31 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-24 10:10 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-24 10:10 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-24 20:45 ` Neil Horman
2015-11-24 20:45 ` Neil Horman
2015-11-24 21:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-24 21:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-24 21:12 ` David Miller
2015-11-24 21:12 ` David Miller
2015-11-25 15:12 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-11-25 15:12 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-11-28 15:50 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-28 15:50 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 16:51 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 16:51 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 17:43 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 17:43 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 17:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03 17:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03 18:06 ` Marcelo
2015-12-03 18:06 ` Marcelo
2015-12-03 18:35 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-03 18:35 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-03 18:43 ` Marcelo
2015-12-03 18:43 ` Marcelo
2015-12-04 17:14 ` [PATCH net 0/3] sctp: packet timestamp fixes Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 17:14 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 17:14 ` [PATCH net 1/3] sctp: use the same clock as if sock source timestamps were on Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 17:14 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 20:31 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 20:31 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 17:14 ` [PATCH net 2/3] sctp: update the netstamp_needed counter when copying sockets Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 17:14 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 20:33 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 20:33 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 17:14 ` [PATCH net 3/3] sctp: also copy sk_tsflags when copying the socket Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 17:14 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 20:33 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 20:33 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-06 3:24 ` [PATCH net 0/3] sctp: packet timestamp fixes David Miller
2015-12-06 3:24 ` David Miller
2015-12-03 13:05 ` use-after-free in sctp_do_sm Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 13:05 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 13:45 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 13:45 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 14:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03 14:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03 15:55 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 15:55 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 16:15 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 16:15 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 17:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03 17:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03 17:12 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 17:12 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 18:52 ` Aaron Conole
2015-12-03 18:52 ` Aaron Conole
2015-12-03 19:06 ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 19:06 ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 19:32 ` Jason Baron
2015-12-03 19:32 ` Jason Baron
2015-12-03 20:03 ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 20:03 ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 20:10 ` Jason Baron
2015-12-03 20:10 ` Jason Baron
2015-12-03 20:24 ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 20:24 ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 20:42 ` Jason Baron
2015-12-03 20:42 ` Jason Baron
2015-12-03 20:51 ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 20:51 ` Joe Perches
2015-12-04 10:40 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 10:40 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 12:55 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 12:55 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 15:37 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 15:37 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 15:51 ` Aaron Conole
2015-12-04 15:51 ` Aaron Conole
2015-12-04 16:12 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 16:12 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 16:47 ` Jason Baron
2015-12-04 16:47 ` Jason Baron
2015-12-04 17:03 ` Joe Perches
2015-12-04 17:03 ` Joe Perches
2015-12-04 17:11 ` Jason Baron
2015-12-04 17:11 ` Jason Baron
2015-12-04 10:41 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 10:41 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 17:48 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 17:48 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 20:25 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 20:25 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 21:34 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 21:34 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 21:38 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 21:38 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-05 16:39 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-05 16:39 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-07 11:26 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-07 11:26 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-07 13:15 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 13:15 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 13:20 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-07 13:20 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-07 18:52 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 18:52 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 19:33 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-07 19:33 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-07 19:50 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 19:50 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 20:37 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-07 20:37 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-07 20:52 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 20:52 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-08 17:30 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-08 17:30 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-08 17:40 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-08 17:40 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-08 19:22 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-08 19:22 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-09 14:41 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-09 14:41 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-09 15:03 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-09 15:03 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-09 16:41 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-09 16:41 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-11 13:35 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-11 13:35 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-11 13:51 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-11 13:51 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-11 14:03 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-11 14:03 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-11 14:30 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-11 14:30 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-11 15:55 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-11 15:55 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2016-01-08 13:00 ` [PATCH] sctp: fix use-after-free in pr_debug statement Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2016-01-08 13:00 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2016-01-11 17:00 ` Vlad Yasevich
2016-01-11 17:00 ` Vlad Yasevich
2016-01-11 22:13 ` David Miller
2016-01-11 22:13 ` David Miller
2016-01-12 8:41 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-01-12 8:41 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-11 18:37 ` use-after-free in sctp_do_sm Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-11 18:37 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-14 9:50 ` David Laight
2015-12-14 14:25 ` Vlad Yasevich [this message]
2015-12-14 14:25 ` Vlad Yasevich
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