From: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
To: Sergey Fedorov <serge.fdrv@gmail.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
Anthony Green <green@moxielogic.com>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>, Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>,
qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
Leon Alrae <leon.alrae@imgtec.com>,
Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>, Jia Liu <proljc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] target-*: Get rid of "PC advancement" trick
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 08:19:17 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <566EEC05.2080702@twiddle.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <566C7D38.4040609@gmail.com>
On 12/12/2015 12:02 PM, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
> On 12/12/15 02:39, Richard Henderson wrote:
>> On 12/10/2015 10:47 AM, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>>> The "PC advancement" trick was used just after recognizing that a
>>> breakpoint exception was going to be generated. This trick has had two
>>> points:
>>> 1. Guarantee that tb->size isn't zero: there are many places where it's
>>> expected to be non-zero. In fact, that is even stated in the comment
>>> for this field.
>>> 2. Try to satisfy disassembler's check for instruction length. To this
>>> end, PC advancement was done for estimated instruction length, but
>>> actually, didn't work properly in variable-instruction-length cases.
>>>
>>> Substitute this trick with checking for TB size at the end of
>>> translation. If we get an empty TB then just set tb->size to 1 and skip
>>> disassembling. Setting tb->size to 1 is enough to get correct behaviour,
>>> whereas an empty TB doesn't obviously need to be disassembled.
>>
>> This doesn't help when the TB already has instructions, the TB would
>> ordinarily cross a page boundary, and the breakpoint is at the page boundary.
>
> I see your point. But I am wondering why most architectures stop translating on
> a page boundary whereas i386 and m86k don't. There are some comments which say
> that's to ensure instruction fetch aborts occur at the right place. Isn't it
> necessary for all architectures?
In order to support targets with variable-sized instructions, like i386, where
a single instruction may straddle the page boundary, generic code can handle a
TB taking code from two (and only two) pages.
It's true that some of the way we treat i386 TBs plays a bit fast and loose, in
that it's possible to design a code sequence that will report a page access
error at the beginning of the TB, rather than another runtime exception which
might have been visible if we'd executed the TB.
I believe that someone fixed that for arm thumb, but no one has bothered about
this for i386, m68k, or s390. Because it just doesn't happen in practice; one
has to go out of one's way to design the errant code sequence.
> At least for those architectures which do stop translating on a page boundary,
> I think this patch is applicable. Certainly, it would be better to have a
> single solution for all architectures.
For that, I think it might be interesting to arrange for non-empty TBs to exit
prior to recognizing a breakpoint. So that a breakpoint TB is always just the
one operation. Except for the fact that "generate an exception" has
traditionally been a target-specific helper, we could almost make the entire
breakpoint generation be done in common code.
I'd think something like a generic "must we end the TB now" predicate would be
the proper hook. It would contain all of the usual stuff: tcg_op_buf_full and
checks for singlestep, but then add "is there a breakpoint at the next pc".
r~
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From: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
To: Sergey Fedorov <serge.fdrv@gmail.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
Anthony Green <green@moxielogic.com>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>, Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>,
qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
Leon Alrae <leon.alrae@imgtec.com>,
Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>, Jia Liu <proljc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] target-*: Get rid of "PC advancement" trick
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 08:19:17 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <566EEC05.2080702@twiddle.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <566C7D38.4040609@gmail.com>
On 12/12/2015 12:02 PM, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
> On 12/12/15 02:39, Richard Henderson wrote:
>> On 12/10/2015 10:47 AM, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>>> The "PC advancement" trick was used just after recognizing that a
>>> breakpoint exception was going to be generated. This trick has had two
>>> points:
>>> 1. Guarantee that tb->size isn't zero: there are many places where it's
>>> expected to be non-zero. In fact, that is even stated in the comment
>>> for this field.
>>> 2. Try to satisfy disassembler's check for instruction length. To this
>>> end, PC advancement was done for estimated instruction length, but
>>> actually, didn't work properly in variable-instruction-length cases.
>>>
>>> Substitute this trick with checking for TB size at the end of
>>> translation. If we get an empty TB then just set tb->size to 1 and skip
>>> disassembling. Setting tb->size to 1 is enough to get correct behaviour,
>>> whereas an empty TB doesn't obviously need to be disassembled.
>>
>> This doesn't help when the TB already has instructions, the TB would
>> ordinarily cross a page boundary, and the breakpoint is at the page boundary.
>
> I see your point. But I am wondering why most architectures stop translating on
> a page boundary whereas i386 and m86k don't. There are some comments which say
> that's to ensure instruction fetch aborts occur at the right place. Isn't it
> necessary for all architectures?
In order to support targets with variable-sized instructions, like i386, where
a single instruction may straddle the page boundary, generic code can handle a
TB taking code from two (and only two) pages.
It's true that some of the way we treat i386 TBs plays a bit fast and loose, in
that it's possible to design a code sequence that will report a page access
error at the beginning of the TB, rather than another runtime exception which
might have been visible if we'd executed the TB.
I believe that someone fixed that for arm thumb, but no one has bothered about
this for i386, m68k, or s390. Because it just doesn't happen in practice; one
has to go out of one's way to design the errant code sequence.
> At least for those architectures which do stop translating on a page boundary,
> I think this patch is applicable. Certainly, it would be better to have a
> single solution for all architectures.
For that, I think it might be interesting to arrange for non-empty TBs to exit
prior to recognizing a breakpoint. So that a breakpoint TB is always just the
one operation. Except for the fact that "generate an exception" has
traditionally been a target-specific helper, we could almost make the entire
breakpoint generation be done in common code.
I'd think something like a generic "must we end the TB now" predicate would be
the proper hook. It would contain all of the usual stuff: tcg_op_buf_full and
checks for singlestep, but then add "is there a breakpoint at the next pc".
r~
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-14 16:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-10 18:47 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] target-*: Get rid of "PC advancement" trick Sergey Fedorov
2015-12-11 23:39 ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2015-12-11 23:39 ` Richard Henderson
2015-12-12 20:02 ` [Qemu-arm] " Sergey Fedorov
2015-12-12 20:02 ` Sergey Fedorov
2015-12-14 16:19 ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2015-12-14 16:19 ` Richard Henderson
2015-12-15 21:02 ` [Qemu-arm] " Sergey Fedorov
2015-12-15 21:02 ` Sergey Fedorov
2015-12-16 17:03 ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2015-12-16 17:03 ` Richard Henderson
2015-12-16 21:13 ` [Qemu-arm] " Sergey Fedorov
2015-12-16 21:13 ` Sergey Fedorov
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