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From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>
Cc: "Izumi, Taku" <izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"mel@csn.ul.ie" <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"matt@codeblueprint.co.uk" <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: Introduce kernelcore=mirror option
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:01:50 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <567241BE.5030806@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56723E8B.8050201@huawei.com>

On 2015/12/17 13:48, Xishi Qiu wrote:
> On 2015/12/17 10:53, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:
> 
>> On 2015/12/17 11:47, Xishi Qiu wrote:
>>> On 2015/12/17 9:38, Izumi, Taku wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Xishi,
>>>>
>>>>    Sorry for late.
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Xishi Qiu [mailto:qiuxishi@huawei.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 6:44 PM
>>>>> To: Izumi, Taku/泉 拓
>>>>> Cc: Luck, Tony; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-mm@kvack.org; akpm@linux-foundation.org; Kamezawa, Hiroyuki/亀澤 寛
>>>>> 之; mel@csn.ul.ie; Hansen, Dave; matt@codeblueprint.co.uk
>>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: Introduce kernelcore=mirror option
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2015/12/11 13:53, Izumi, Taku wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Xishi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Taku,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whether it is possible that we rewrite the fallback function in buddy system
>>>>>>> when zone_movable and mirrored_kernelcore are both enabled?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     What does "when zone_movable and mirrored_kernelcore are both enabled?" mean ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     My patchset just provides a new way to create ZONE_MOVABLE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Taku,
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Taku,
>>>
>>> We can NOT specify kernelcore= "nn[KMG]" and "mirror" at the same time.
>>> So when we use "mirror", in fact, the movable zone is a new zone. I think it is
>>> more appropriate with this name "mirrored zone", and also we can rewrite the
>>> fallback function in buddy system in this case.
>>
>> kernelcore ="mirrored zone" ?
> 
> No, it's zone_names[MAX_NR_ZONES]
> How about "Movable", -> "Non-mirrored"?
> 
That will break many user apps. I think we don't have enough reason. 

>>
>> BTW, let me confirm.
>>
>>    ZONE_NORMAL = mirrored
>>    ZONE_MOVABLE = not mirrored.
>>
> 
> Yes,
> 
>> so, the new zone is "not-mirrored" zone.
>>
>> Now, fallback function is
>>
>>     movable -> normal -> DMA.
>>
>> As Tony requested, we may need a knob to stop a fallback in "movable->normal", later.
>>
> 
> If the mirrored memory is small and the other is large,
> I think we can both enable "non-mirrored -> normal" and "normal -> non-mirrored".

Size of mirrored memory can be configured by software(EFI var).
So, having both is just overkill and normal->non-mirroed fallback is meaningless considering
what the feature want to guarantee.

Thanks,
-Kame




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From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>
Cc: "Izumi, Taku" <izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"mel@csn.ul.ie" <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"matt@codeblueprint.co.uk" <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: Introduce kernelcore=mirror option
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:01:50 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <567241BE.5030806@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56723E8B.8050201@huawei.com>

On 2015/12/17 13:48, Xishi Qiu wrote:
> On 2015/12/17 10:53, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:
> 
>> On 2015/12/17 11:47, Xishi Qiu wrote:
>>> On 2015/12/17 9:38, Izumi, Taku wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Xishi,
>>>>
>>>>    Sorry for late.
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Xishi Qiu [mailto:qiuxishi@huawei.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 6:44 PM
>>>>> To: Izumi, Taku/泉 拓
>>>>> Cc: Luck, Tony; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-mm@kvack.org; akpm@linux-foundation.org; Kamezawa, Hiroyuki/亀澤 寛
>>>>> 之; mel@csn.ul.ie; Hansen, Dave; matt@codeblueprint.co.uk
>>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: Introduce kernelcore=mirror option
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2015/12/11 13:53, Izumi, Taku wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Xishi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Taku,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whether it is possible that we rewrite the fallback function in buddy system
>>>>>>> when zone_movable and mirrored_kernelcore are both enabled?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     What does "when zone_movable and mirrored_kernelcore are both enabled?" mean ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     My patchset just provides a new way to create ZONE_MOVABLE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Taku,
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Taku,
>>>
>>> We can NOT specify kernelcore= "nn[KMG]" and "mirror" at the same time.
>>> So when we use "mirror", in fact, the movable zone is a new zone. I think it is
>>> more appropriate with this name "mirrored zone", and also we can rewrite the
>>> fallback function in buddy system in this case.
>>
>> kernelcore ="mirrored zone" ?
> 
> No, it's zone_names[MAX_NR_ZONES]
> How about "Movable", -> "Non-mirrored"?
> 
That will break many user apps. I think we don't have enough reason. 

>>
>> BTW, let me confirm.
>>
>>    ZONE_NORMAL = mirrored
>>    ZONE_MOVABLE = not mirrored.
>>
> 
> Yes,
> 
>> so, the new zone is "not-mirrored" zone.
>>
>> Now, fallback function is
>>
>>     movable -> normal -> DMA.
>>
>> As Tony requested, we may need a knob to stop a fallback in "movable->normal", later.
>>
> 
> If the mirrored memory is small and the other is large,
> I think we can both enable "non-mirrored -> normal" and "normal -> non-mirrored".

Size of mirrored memory can be configured by software(EFI var).
So, having both is just overkill and normal->non-mirroed fallback is meaningless considering
what the feature want to guarantee.

Thanks,
-Kame





  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-17  5:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-09  3:18 [PATCH v3 0/2] mm: Introduce kernelcore=mirror option Taku Izumi
2015-12-09  3:18 ` Taku Izumi
2015-12-09  3:19 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] mm: Calculate zone_start_pfn at zone_spanned_pages_in_node() Taku Izumi
2015-12-09  3:19   ` Taku Izumi
2015-12-09  3:19 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: Introduce kernelcore=mirror option Taku Izumi
2015-12-09  3:19   ` Taku Izumi
2015-12-09  3:28   ` Xishi Qiu
2015-12-09  3:28     ` Xishi Qiu
2015-12-09 21:59     ` Luck, Tony
2015-12-09 21:59       ` Luck, Tony
2015-12-10  1:14       ` Xishi Qiu
2015-12-10  1:14         ` Xishi Qiu
2015-12-10  5:37         ` Izumi, Taku
2015-12-10  5:37           ` Izumi, Taku
2015-12-10  6:13           ` Xishi Qiu
2015-12-10  6:13             ` Xishi Qiu
2015-12-11  5:53             ` Izumi, Taku
2015-12-11  5:53               ` Izumi, Taku
2015-12-11  9:44               ` Xishi Qiu
2015-12-11  9:44                 ` Xishi Qiu
2015-12-17  1:38                 ` Izumi, Taku
2015-12-17  1:38                   ` Izumi, Taku
2015-12-17  2:47                   ` Xishi Qiu
2015-12-17  2:47                     ` Xishi Qiu
2015-12-17  2:53                     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-12-17  2:53                       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-12-17  4:48                       ` Xishi Qiu
2015-12-17  4:48                         ` Xishi Qiu
2015-12-17  5:01                         ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki [this message]
2015-12-17  5:01                           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-12-17 18:43                           ` Luck, Tony
2015-12-17 18:43                             ` Luck, Tony
2015-12-18  2:12                             ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-12-18  2:12                               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-12-18  6:59                               ` Luck, Tony
2015-12-18  6:59                                 ` Luck, Tony
2015-12-28 22:21   ` Andrew Morton
2015-12-28 22:21     ` Andrew Morton
2015-12-28 22:32   ` Andrew Morton
2015-12-28 22:32     ` Andrew Morton

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