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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas@tklengyel.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Razvan Cojocaru <rcojocaru@bitdefender.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] vm_event: sync domctl
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 19:14:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <567AF292.8050606@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABfawhnCBOwH1Psq9Ta=vfuRTY3pRXUmMN=7w0m20F78MoCpgA@mail.gmail.com>


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On 23/12/2015 18:11, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Andrew Cooper
> <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com <mailto:andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 23/12/2015 15:41, Razvan Cojocaru wrote:
>     > On 12/23/2015 04:53 PM, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
>     >> Introduce new vm_event domctl option which allows an event
>     subscriber
>     >> to request all vCPUs not currently pending a vm_event request
>     to be paused,
>     >> thus allowing the subscriber to sync up on the state of the
>     domain. This
>     >> is especially useful when the subscribed wants to disable
>     certain events
>     >> from being delivered and wants to ensure no more requests are
>     pending on the
>     >> ring before doing so.
>     >>
>     >> Cc: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com
>     <mailto:ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>>
>     >> Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com
>     <mailto:stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>>
>     >> Cc: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com
>     <mailto:ian.campbell@citrix.com>>
>     >> Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com <mailto:wei.liu2@citrix.com>>
>     >> Cc: Razvan Cojocaru <rcojocaru@bitdefender.com
>     <mailto:rcojocaru@bitdefender.com>>
>     >> Signed-off-by: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas@tklengyel.com
>     <mailto:tamas@tklengyel.com>>
>     > This certainly looks very interesting. Would xc_domain_pause()
>     not be
>     > enough for your use case then?
>
>     I second this query.  I would have thought xc_domain_pause() does
>     exactly what you want in this case.
>
>
> The problem is in what order the responses are processed. I may not be
> correct about the logic but here is what my impression was:
> xc_domain_unpause resumes all vCPUs even if there is still a vm_event
> response that has not been processed. Now, if the subscriber set
> response flags (altp2m switch, singlestep toggle, etc) those actions
> would not be properly performed on the vCPU before it's resumed. If
> the subscriber processes all requests and signals via the event
> channel that the responses are on the ring, then calls
> xc_domain_unpause, we can still have a race between processing the
> responses from the ring and unpausing the vCPU.
>  
>
>     The code provided is racy, as it is liable to alter which pause
>     references it takes/releases depending on what other pause/unpause
>     actions are being made.
>
>
> It's understood that the user would not use xc_domain_pause/unpause
> while using vm_event responses with response flags specified. Even
> then, it was already racy IMHO if the user called xc_domain_unpause
> before processing requests from the vm_event ring that originally
> paused the vCPU, so this doesn't change that situation.

Pausing is strictly reference counted. (or rather, it is since c/s
3eb1c70 "properly reference count DOMCTL_{,un}pausedomain hypercalls". 
Before then, it definitely was buggy.)

There is the domain pause count, and pause counts per vcpu.  All domain
pause operations take both a domain pause reference, and a vcpu pause
reference on each vcpu.  A vcpu is only eligible to be scheduled if its
pause reference count is zero.  If two independent tasks call
vcpu_pause() on the same vcpu, it will remain paused until both
independent tasks have called vcpu_unpause().

Having said this, I can well believe that there might be issues with the
current uses of pausing.

The vital factor is that the entity which pauses a vcpu is also
responsible for unpausing it, and it must be resistant to accidentally
leaking its reference.

In this case, I believe that what you want to do is:

1) Identify condition requiring a sync
2) xc_domain_pause()
3) Process all of the pending vm_events
4) Synchronise the state
5) xc_domain_unpause()

All vcpus of the domain should stay descheduled between points 2 and 5. 
If this doesn't have the intended effect, then I suspect there is a bug
in the pause reference handing of the vm_event subsystem.

Is this clearer, or have I misunderstood the problem?

~Andrew

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-23 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-23 14:53 [PATCH 1/2] vm_event: sync domctl Tamas K Lengyel
2015-12-23 14:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] vm_event: Add altp2m info to HVM events as well Tamas K Lengyel
2015-12-23 15:42   ` Razvan Cojocaru
2015-12-23 17:18     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-06 11:32   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-06 11:42     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2016-01-06 11:48       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-06 11:50         ` Tamas K Lengyel
2016-01-12 10:21           ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-12 12:13             ` Tamas K Lengyel
2015-12-23 15:41 ` [PATCH 1/2] vm_event: sync domctl Razvan Cojocaru
2015-12-23 17:17   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-23 18:11     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2015-12-23 19:11       ` Razvan Cojocaru
2015-12-23 19:14       ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2015-12-23 20:55         ` Tamas K Lengyel
2015-12-23 21:06           ` Tamas K Lengyel
2015-12-23 21:13             ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-06 15:48 ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-06 18:29   ` Tamas K Lengyel
2016-01-07  9:58     ` Ian Campbell

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