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From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
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	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
	Valentin Rothberg <valentinrothberg@gmail.com>,
	Peter Senna Tschudin <peter.senna@gmail.com>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 4/8] x86/init: add linker table support
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 09:38:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56A0990C.9090601@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB=NE6UmZobo0dnDGfNY41CiYFmPcHyCYGNHsXYJSWEjwBtfaQ@mail.gmail.com>

El 20/01/16 a les 22.33, Luis R. Rodriguez ha escrit:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
> <konrad.wilk@oracle.com> wrote:
>>> +static bool x86_init_fn_supports_subarch(struct x86_init_fn *fn)
>>> +{
>>> +     if (!fn->supp_hardware_subarch) {
>>> +             pr_err("Init sequence fails to declares any supported subarchs: %pF\n", fn->early_init);
>>> +             WARN_ON(1);
>>> +     }
>>> +     if (BIT(boot_params.hdr.hardware_subarch) & fn->supp_hardware_subarch)
>>> +             return true;
>>> +     return false;
>>> +}
>>
>> So the logic for this working is that boot_params.hdr.hardware_subarch
>>
>> And the macros define two: BIT(X86_SUBARCH_PC) or BIT(X86_SUBARCH_XEN).
>>
>> But hardware_subarch by default is set to zero. Which means if GRUB2, PXELinux, Xen multiboot1
>> don't set it - then the X86_SUBARCH_PC is choosen right?
>>
>>  1 << 0 & 1 << X86_SUBARCH_PC (which is zero).
>>
>> For this to nicely work with Xen it ought to do this:
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c b/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c
>> index 993b7a7..6cf9afd 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c
>> +++ b/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c
>> @@ -1676,6 +1676,7 @@ asmlinkage __visible void __init xen_start_kernel(void)
>>         boot_params.hdr.ramdisk_image = initrd_start;
>>         boot_params.hdr.ramdisk_size = xen_start_info->mod_len;
>>         boot_params.hdr.cmd_line_ptr = __pa(xen_start_info->cmd_line);
>> +       boot_params.hdr.hardware_subarch = X86_SUBARCH_XEN;
>>
>>         if (!xen_initial_domain()) {
>>                 add_preferred_console("xenboot", 0, NULL);
>>
>>
>> ?
> 
> That's correct for PV and PVH, likewise when qemu is required for HVM
> qemu could set it. I have the qemu change done but that should only
> cover HVM. A common place to set this as well could be the hypervisor,
> but currently the hypervisor doesn't set any boot_params, instead a
> generic struct is passed and the kernel code (for any OS) is expected
> to interpret this and then set the required values for the OS in the
> init path. Long term though if we wanted to merge init further one way
> could be to have the hypervisor just set the zero page cleanly for the
> different modes. If we needed more data other than the
> hardware_subarch we also have the hardware_subarch_data, that's a u64
> , and how that is used would be up to the subarch. In Xen's case it
> could do what it wants with it. That would still mean perhaps defining
> as part of a Xen boot protocol a place where xen specific code can
> count on finding more Xen data passed by the hypervisor, the
> xen_start_info. That is, if we wanted to merge init paths this is
> something to consider.
> 
> One thing I considered on the question of who should set the zero page
> for Xen with the prospect of merging inits, or at least this subarch
> for both short term and long term are the obvious implications in
> terms of hypervisor / kernel / qemu combination requirements if the
> subarch is needed. Having it set in the kernel is an obvious immediate
> choice for PV / PVH but it means we can't merge init paths completely
> (down to asm inits), we'd still be able to merge some C init paths
> though, the first entry would still be different. Having the zero page
> set on the hypervisor would go long ways but it would mean a
> hypervisor change required.

I don't think the hypervisor should be setting Linux specific boot
related parameters, the boot ABI should be OS agnostic. IMHO, a small
shim should be added to Linux in order to set what Linux requires when
entering from a Xen entry point.

Roger.

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From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	mcb30@ipxe.org, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	joro@8bytes.org, Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
	andreyknvl@google.com, long.wanglong@huawei.com,
	qiuxishi@huawei.com, aryabinin@virtuozzo.com,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
	Valentin Rothberg <valentinrothberg@gmail.com>,
	Peter Senna Tschudin <peter.senna@gmail.com>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 4/8] x86/init: add linker table support
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 09:38:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56A0990C.9090601@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB=NE6UmZobo0dnDGfNY41CiYFmPcHyCYGNHsXYJSWEjwBtfaQ@mail.gmail.com>

El 20/01/16 a les 22.33, Luis R. Rodriguez ha escrit:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
> <konrad.wilk@oracle.com> wrote:
>>> +static bool x86_init_fn_supports_subarch(struct x86_init_fn *fn)
>>> +{
>>> +     if (!fn->supp_hardware_subarch) {
>>> +             pr_err("Init sequence fails to declares any supported subarchs: %pF\n", fn->early_init);
>>> +             WARN_ON(1);
>>> +     }
>>> +     if (BIT(boot_params.hdr.hardware_subarch) & fn->supp_hardware_subarch)
>>> +             return true;
>>> +     return false;
>>> +}
>>
>> So the logic for this working is that boot_params.hdr.hardware_subarch
>>
>> And the macros define two: BIT(X86_SUBARCH_PC) or BIT(X86_SUBARCH_XEN).
>>
>> But hardware_subarch by default is set to zero. Which means if GRUB2, PXELinux, Xen multiboot1
>> don't set it - then the X86_SUBARCH_PC is choosen right?
>>
>>  1 << 0 & 1 << X86_SUBARCH_PC (which is zero).
>>
>> For this to nicely work with Xen it ought to do this:
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c b/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c
>> index 993b7a7..6cf9afd 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c
>> +++ b/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c
>> @@ -1676,6 +1676,7 @@ asmlinkage __visible void __init xen_start_kernel(void)
>>         boot_params.hdr.ramdisk_image = initrd_start;
>>         boot_params.hdr.ramdisk_size = xen_start_info->mod_len;
>>         boot_params.hdr.cmd_line_ptr = __pa(xen_start_info->cmd_line);
>> +       boot_params.hdr.hardware_subarch = X86_SUBARCH_XEN;
>>
>>         if (!xen_initial_domain()) {
>>                 add_preferred_console("xenboot", 0, NULL);
>>
>>
>> ?
> 
> That's correct for PV and PVH, likewise when qemu is required for HVM
> qemu could set it. I have the qemu change done but that should only
> cover HVM. A common place to set this as well could be the hypervisor,
> but currently the hypervisor doesn't set any boot_params, instead a
> generic struct is passed and the kernel code (for any OS) is expected
> to interpret this and then set the required values for the OS in the
> init path. Long term though if we wanted to merge init further one way
> could be to have the hypervisor just set the zero page cleanly for the
> different modes. If we needed more data other than the
> hardware_subarch we also have the hardware_subarch_data, that's a u64
> , and how that is used would be up to the subarch. In Xen's case it
> could do what it wants with it. That would still mean perhaps defining
> as part of a Xen boot protocol a place where xen specific code can
> count on finding more Xen data passed by the hypervisor, the
> xen_start_info. That is, if we wanted to merge init paths this is
> something to consider.
> 
> One thing I considered on the question of who should set the zero page
> for Xen with the prospect of merging inits, or at least this subarch
> for both short term and long term are the obvious implications in
> terms of hypervisor / kernel / qemu combination requirements if the
> subarch is needed. Having it set in the kernel is an obvious immediate
> choice for PV / PVH but it means we can't merge init paths completely
> (down to asm inits), we'd still be able to merge some C init paths
> though, the first entry would still be different. Having the zero page
> set on the hypervisor would go long ways but it would mean a
> hypervisor change required.

I don't think the hypervisor should be setting Linux specific boot
related parameters, the boot ABI should be OS agnostic. IMHO, a small
shim should be added to Linux in order to set what Linux requires when
entering from a Xen entry point.

Roger.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-21  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-15 22:16 [RFC v1 0/8] x86/init: Linux linker tables Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [Cocci] [RFC v1 1/8] paravirt: rename paravirt_enabled to paravirt_legacy Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-15 22:16   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 19:32   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-04 22:50     ` [Cocci] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-04 22:50       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-04 22:50       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 2/8] tables.h: add linker table support Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-15 22:16   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 20:04   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 23:15     ` Michael Brown
2016-01-20 23:24       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 3/8] x86/boot: add BIT() to boot/bitops.h Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 20:17   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 20:33     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 4/8] x86/init: add linker table support Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 20:45   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 21:00   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 21:33     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 21:41       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-20 22:12         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 22:12           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 22:20           ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-20 22:20             ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-22  0:25             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-22  0:25               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-22  0:42               ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-22  0:42                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-11 20:45                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-11 20:45                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21  8:38       ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2016-01-21  8:38         ` Roger Pau Monné
2016-01-21 13:45         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-01-21 19:25           ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-21 19:46             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 19:46               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 19:50               ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-21 19:50                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-21 19:52                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-21 19:52                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-22  0:19                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-22  0:19                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 20:05                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 20:05                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 21:36                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-21 21:36                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 5/8] x86/init: move ebda reservations into linker table Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-17 20:48   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-17 20:55     ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-17 20:57       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-17 23:40         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 20:46   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 6/8] x86/init: use linker table for i386 early setup Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 21:14   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 21:41     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-11 19:55       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-11 19:55         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 7/8] x86/init: user linker table for ce4100 " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 21:14   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 8/8] x86/init: use linker table for mid " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 21:15   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-12-15 22:59 ` [RFC v1 0/8] x86/init: Linux linker tables H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-17 20:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-17 23:46   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-17 23:58     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-17 23:58       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-18  4:25     ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-18  4:40       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-21 20:19         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-21 20:33           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 21:37             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-21 22:25               ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 23:56                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-22  0:28                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-22  0:28                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-22  8:15               ` Michael Brown
2016-01-22 13:44           ` Michael Matz
2016-01-22 19:06             ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-22 21:52               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-22 21:52                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-03  0:22                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-03  0:25                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-03  0:28                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-03  0:48                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-03  0:48                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-02 23:48             ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-03  0:15               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-03  0:15                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-18 18:50       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-18 18:58         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-20 21:16 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 21:49   ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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