From: Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Neo Jia <cjia@nvidia.com>, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "Song, Jike" <jike.song@intel.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Lv, Zhiyuan" <zhiyuan.lv@intel.com>,
"Ruan, Shuai" <shuai.ruan@intel.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"igvt-g@lists.01.org" <igvt-g@ml01.01.org>
Subject: Re: VFIO based vGPU(was Re: [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated ...)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 13:36:43 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56A87A93.3000105@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1453838773.15515.1.camel@redhat.com>
On 1/27/2016 1:36 AM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 02:20 -0800, Neo Jia wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 09:45:14PM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>>>> From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson@redhat.com]
>>
>> Hi Alex, Kevin and Jike,
>>
>> (Seems I shouldn't use attachment, resend it again to the list, patches are
>> inline at the end)
>>
>> Thanks for adding me to this technical discussion, a great opportunity
>> for us to design together which can bring both Intel and NVIDIA vGPU solution to
>> KVM platform.
>>
>> Instead of directly jumping to the proposal that we have been working on
>> recently for NVIDIA vGPU on KVM, I think it is better for me to put out couple
>> quick comments / thoughts regarding the existing discussions on this thread as
>> fundamentally I think we are solving the same problem, DMA, interrupt and MMIO.
>>
>> Then we can look at what we have, hopefully we can reach some consensus soon.
>>
>>> Yes, and since you're creating and destroying the vgpu here, this is
>>> where I'd expect a struct device to be created and added to an IOMMU
>>> group. The lifecycle management should really include links between
>>> the vGPU and physical GPU, which would be much, much easier to do with
>>> struct devices create here rather than at the point where we start
>>> doing vfio "stuff".
>>
>> Infact to keep vfio-vgpu to be more generic, vgpu device creation and management
>> can be centralized and done in vfio-vgpu. That also include adding to IOMMU
>> group and VFIO group.
> Is this really a good idea? The concept of a vgpu is not unique to
> vfio, we want vfio to be a driver for a vgpu, not an integral part of
> the lifecycle of a vgpu. That certainly doesn't exclude adding
> infrastructure to make lifecycle management of a vgpu more consistent
> between drivers, but it should be done independently of vfio. I'll go
> back to the SR-IOV model, vfio is often used with SR-IOV VFs, but vfio
> does not create the VF, that's done in coordination with the PF making
> use of some PCI infrastructure for consistency between drivers.
>
> It seems like we need to take more advantage of the class and driver
> core support to perhaps setup a vgpu bus and class with vfio-vgpu just
> being a driver for those devices.
For device passthrough or SR-IOV model, PCI devices are created by PCI
bus driver and from the probe routine each device is added in vfio group.
For vgpu, there should be a common module that create vgpu device, say
vgpu module, add vgpu device to an IOMMU group and then add it to vfio
group. This module can handle management of vgpus. Advantage of keeping
this module a separate module than doing device creation in vendor
modules is to have generic interface for vgpu management, for example,
files /sys/class/vgpu/vgpu_start and /sys/class/vgpu/vgpu_shudown and
vgpu driver registration interface.
In the patch, vgpu_dev.c + vgpu_sysfs.c form such vgpu module and
vgpu_vfio.c is for VFIO interface. Each vgpu device should be added to
vfio group, so vgpu_group_init() from vgpu_vfio.c should be called per
device. In the vgpu module, vgpu devices are created on request, so
vgpu_group_init() should be called explicitly for per vgpu device.
That’s why had merged the 2 modules, vgpu + vgpu_vfio to form one vgpu
module. Vgpu_vfio would remain separate entity but merged with vgpu
module.
Thanks,
Kirti
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From: Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Neo Jia <cjia@nvidia.com>, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "Ruan, Shuai" <shuai.ruan@intel.com>,
"Song, Jike" <jike.song@intel.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"igvt-g@lists.01.org" <igvt-g@ml01.01.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Lv, Zhiyuan" <zhiyuan.lv@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] VFIO based vGPU(was Re: [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated ...)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 13:36:43 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56A87A93.3000105@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1453838773.15515.1.camel@redhat.com>
On 1/27/2016 1:36 AM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 02:20 -0800, Neo Jia wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 09:45:14PM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>>>> From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson@redhat.com]
>>
>> Hi Alex, Kevin and Jike,
>>
>> (Seems I shouldn't use attachment, resend it again to the list, patches are
>> inline at the end)
>>
>> Thanks for adding me to this technical discussion, a great opportunity
>> for us to design together which can bring both Intel and NVIDIA vGPU solution to
>> KVM platform.
>>
>> Instead of directly jumping to the proposal that we have been working on
>> recently for NVIDIA vGPU on KVM, I think it is better for me to put out couple
>> quick comments / thoughts regarding the existing discussions on this thread as
>> fundamentally I think we are solving the same problem, DMA, interrupt and MMIO.
>>
>> Then we can look at what we have, hopefully we can reach some consensus soon.
>>
>>> Yes, and since you're creating and destroying the vgpu here, this is
>>> where I'd expect a struct device to be created and added to an IOMMU
>>> group. The lifecycle management should really include links between
>>> the vGPU and physical GPU, which would be much, much easier to do with
>>> struct devices create here rather than at the point where we start
>>> doing vfio "stuff".
>>
>> Infact to keep vfio-vgpu to be more generic, vgpu device creation and management
>> can be centralized and done in vfio-vgpu. That also include adding to IOMMU
>> group and VFIO group.
> Is this really a good idea? The concept of a vgpu is not unique to
> vfio, we want vfio to be a driver for a vgpu, not an integral part of
> the lifecycle of a vgpu. That certainly doesn't exclude adding
> infrastructure to make lifecycle management of a vgpu more consistent
> between drivers, but it should be done independently of vfio. I'll go
> back to the SR-IOV model, vfio is often used with SR-IOV VFs, but vfio
> does not create the VF, that's done in coordination with the PF making
> use of some PCI infrastructure for consistency between drivers.
>
> It seems like we need to take more advantage of the class and driver
> core support to perhaps setup a vgpu bus and class with vfio-vgpu just
> being a driver for those devices.
For device passthrough or SR-IOV model, PCI devices are created by PCI
bus driver and from the probe routine each device is added in vfio group.
For vgpu, there should be a common module that create vgpu device, say
vgpu module, add vgpu device to an IOMMU group and then add it to vfio
group. This module can handle management of vgpus. Advantage of keeping
this module a separate module than doing device creation in vendor
modules is to have generic interface for vgpu management, for example,
files /sys/class/vgpu/vgpu_start and /sys/class/vgpu/vgpu_shudown and
vgpu driver registration interface.
In the patch, vgpu_dev.c + vgpu_sysfs.c form such vgpu module and
vgpu_vfio.c is for VFIO interface. Each vgpu device should be added to
vfio group, so vgpu_group_init() from vgpu_vfio.c should be called per
device. In the vgpu module, vgpu devices are created on request, so
vgpu_group_init() should be called explicitly for per vgpu device.
That’s why had merged the 2 modules, vgpu + vgpu_vfio to form one vgpu
module. Vgpu_vfio would remain separate entity but merged with vgpu
module.
Thanks,
Kirti
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-27 8:06 UTC|newest]
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2016-01-18 2:39 VFIO based vGPU(was Re: [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated ...) Jike Song
2016-01-18 2:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song
2016-01-18 4:47 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-18 4:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-18 8:56 ` Jike Song
2016-01-18 8:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song
2016-01-18 19:05 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-18 19:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-20 8:59 ` Jike Song
2016-01-20 8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song
2016-01-20 9:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-20 9:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-01-25 11:34 ` Jike Song
2016-01-25 11:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song
2016-01-25 21:30 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-25 21:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-25 21:45 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-25 21:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-01-25 21:48 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-25 21:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 9:48 ` Neo Jia
2016-01-26 9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Neo Jia
2016-01-26 10:20 ` Neo Jia
2016-01-26 10:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Neo Jia
2016-01-26 19:24 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 19:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 19:29 ` Neo Jia
2016-01-26 19:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Neo Jia
2016-01-26 20:06 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 20:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 21:38 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 21:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 22:28 ` Neo Jia
2016-01-26 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Neo Jia
2016-01-26 23:30 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 23:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-27 9:14 ` Neo Jia
2016-01-27 9:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Neo Jia
2016-01-27 16:10 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-27 16:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-27 21:48 ` Neo Jia
2016-01-27 21:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Neo Jia
2016-01-27 8:06 ` Kirti Wankhede [this message]
2016-01-27 8:06 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-01-27 16:00 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-27 16:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-27 20:55 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-01-27 20:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-01-27 21:58 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-27 21:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-28 3:01 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-01-28 3:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-01-26 7:41 ` Jike Song
2016-01-26 7:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song
2016-01-26 14:05 ` Yang Zhang
2016-01-26 14:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yang Zhang
2016-01-26 16:37 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 16:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 21:21 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 21:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 21:30 ` Neo Jia
2016-01-26 21:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Neo Jia
2016-01-26 21:43 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 21:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 21:43 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 21:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 21:50 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 21:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 22:07 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 22:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 22:15 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 22:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 22:27 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 22:27 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 22:39 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 22:56 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 22:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-27 1:47 ` Jike Song
2016-01-27 1:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song
2016-01-27 3:07 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-27 3:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-27 5:43 ` Jike Song
2016-01-27 5:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song
2016-01-27 16:19 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-27 16:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-28 6:00 ` Jike Song
2016-01-28 6:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song
2016-01-28 15:23 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-28 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-29 7:20 ` Jike Song
2016-01-29 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song
2016-01-29 8:49 ` [iGVT-g] " Jike Song
2016-01-29 8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song
2016-01-29 18:50 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-29 18:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-02-01 13:10 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-02-01 13:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2016-02-01 21:44 ` Alex Williamson
2016-02-01 21:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-02-02 7:28 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-02-02 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2016-02-02 7:35 ` Zhiyuan Lv
2016-02-02 7:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhiyuan Lv
2016-01-27 1:52 ` Yang Zhang
2016-01-27 1:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yang Zhang
2016-01-27 3:37 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-27 3:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-27 0:06 ` Jike Song
2016-01-27 0:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song
2016-01-27 1:34 ` Yang Zhang
2016-01-27 1:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yang Zhang
2016-01-27 1:51 ` Jike Song
2016-01-27 1:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song
2016-01-26 16:12 ` Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 16:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-01-26 21:57 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-26 21:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
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