From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/6] drivers/cpufreq: implement init_cpu_capacity_default()
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 15:54:50 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56BA0BCA.6090903@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160205093040.GG29586@e106622-lin>
On 05/02/16 09:30, Juri Lelli wrote:
> On 04/02/16 16:46, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> On 4 February 2016 at 16:44, Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org> wrote:
>>> On 4 February 2016 at 15:13, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com> wrote:
>>>> On 04/02/16 13:35, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>>>> On 4 February 2016 at 13:16, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Vincent,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/02/16 13:03, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4 February 2016 at 10:36, Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 10:04:37PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3 February 2016 at 12:59, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com> wrote:
[...]
>>>
>>> AFAICT, They don't have a dedicated cpufreq driver.
>>>
>>> More generally speaking, it can take time before having
>>
>> email sent before the ne d of the sentence ...
>>
>> More generally speaking, it can take time before having a cpufreq
>> driver whereas we want to run and test scheduler behavior of these
>> heterogenous platform
>>
>
> I'm not familiar with this platform, but from what you are saying and
> what I could find online, it looks like full Linux support is not
> finished yet. Can we consider that as still in development? And if we
> can do that, maybe is fair enough that we use the sysfs interface to
> play with that platform until support is complete.
>
> Do others have any opinion on this point?
IMHO, the solution should work for all of heterogeneous systems, (a) w/
cpufreq and driver, (b) w/ cpufreq and no driver loaded (yet) or (c) w/o
cpufreq.
That means that you can't put the benchmarking only into
cpufreq_register_driver() and rely on cpufreq policy topology.
Maybe you could do this for (b) and (c) inside an initcall and use
topology_core_cpumask() to figure out which cpu to profile?
This would then happen w/ the cpu frequency set by the fw.
But this then has to be synchronized somehow with the benchmarking
approach in cpufreq_register_driver().
[...]
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: dietmar.eggemann@arm.com (Dietmar Eggemann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v3 2/6] drivers/cpufreq: implement init_cpu_capacity_default()
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 15:54:50 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56BA0BCA.6090903@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160205093040.GG29586@e106622-lin>
On 05/02/16 09:30, Juri Lelli wrote:
> On 04/02/16 16:46, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> On 4 February 2016 at 16:44, Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org> wrote:
>>> On 4 February 2016 at 15:13, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com> wrote:
>>>> On 04/02/16 13:35, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>>>> On 4 February 2016 at 13:16, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Vincent,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/02/16 13:03, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4 February 2016 at 10:36, Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 10:04:37PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3 February 2016 at 12:59, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com> wrote:
[...]
>>>
>>> AFAICT, They don't have a dedicated cpufreq driver.
>>>
>>> More generally speaking, it can take time before having
>>
>> email sent before the ne d of the sentence ...
>>
>> More generally speaking, it can take time before having a cpufreq
>> driver whereas we want to run and test scheduler behavior of these
>> heterogenous platform
>>
>
> I'm not familiar with this platform, but from what you are saying and
> what I could find online, it looks like full Linux support is not
> finished yet. Can we consider that as still in development? And if we
> can do that, maybe is fair enough that we use the sysfs interface to
> play with that platform until support is complete.
>
> Do others have any opinion on this point?
IMHO, the solution should work for all of heterogeneous systems, (a) w/
cpufreq and driver, (b) w/ cpufreq and no driver loaded (yet) or (c) w/o
cpufreq.
That means that you can't put the benchmarking only into
cpufreq_register_driver() and rely on cpufreq policy topology.
Maybe you could do this for (b) and (c) inside an initcall and use
topology_core_cpumask() to figure out which cpu to profile?
This would then happen w/ the cpu frequency set by the fw.
But this then has to be synchronized somehow with the benchmarking
approach in cpufreq_register_driver().
[...]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-09 15:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-03 11:59 [PATCH v3 0/6] CPUs capacity information for heterogeneous systems Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 11:59 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] ARM: initialize cpu_scale to its default Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 11:59 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] drivers/cpufreq: implement init_cpu_capacity_default() Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 11:59 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 21:04 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-02-03 21:04 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-02-04 9:36 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-02-04 9:36 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-02-04 12:03 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-02-04 12:03 ` Vincent Guittot
[not found] ` <CAKfTPtB4G3bP5N0hU6zWXJTddO34x3RnyGpp-4_otc8O=Wq2hw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 12:16 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-04 12:16 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-04 12:16 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-04 12:35 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-02-04 12:35 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-02-04 14:13 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-04 14:13 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-04 15:44 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-02-04 15:44 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-02-04 15:46 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-02-04 15:46 ` Vincent Guittot
[not found] ` <CAKfTPtD4jTmUZoShGBm3oAFywizjp8jsEukmkeZU+x+zk-KZRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-05 9:30 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-05 9:30 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-05 9:30 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-09 15:54 ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2016-02-09 15:54 ` Dietmar Eggemann
[not found] ` <56BA0BCA.6090903-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-10 14:25 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-10 14:25 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-10 14:25 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] arm: Enable dynamic CPU capacity initialization Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 11:59 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 11:59 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] arm64: " Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 11:59 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-08 12:28 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-02-08 12:28 ` Dietmar Eggemann
[not found] ` <56B889F7.306-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-08 13:13 ` Mark Brown
2016-02-08 13:13 ` Mark Brown
2016-02-08 13:13 ` Mark Brown
2016-02-08 13:41 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-02-08 13:41 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-02-03 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] arm: add sysfs cpu_capacity attribute Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 11:59 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] arm64: " Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 11:59 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-05 17:19 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-02-05 17:19 ` Dietmar Eggemann
[not found] ` <56B4D98F.3090103-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-05 17:49 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-05 17:49 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-05 17:49 ` Juri Lelli
[not found] ` <1454500799-18451-1-git-send-email-juri.lelli-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-08 23:59 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] CPUs capacity information for heterogeneous systems Steve Muckle
2016-02-08 23:59 ` Steve Muckle
2016-02-08 23:59 ` Steve Muckle
[not found] ` <56B92BF4.4030405-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-09 10:37 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-09 10:37 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-09 10:37 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-09 17:30 ` Steve Muckle
2016-02-09 17:30 ` Steve Muckle
2016-02-09 17:40 ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-09 17:40 ` Juri Lelli
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