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From: Arnout Vandecappelle <arnout@mind.be>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [v3, 1/4] barebox: prepare for secondary config build
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 22:16:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56DC9E47.2090207@mind.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160305131603.GA7616@smipidev>

On 03/05/16 14:16, Pieter Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 10:32:56PM +0100, Pieter Smith wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 07:12:57PM +0100, Arnout Vandecappelle wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>>  The BUILD_CMDS can be parameterized without using functions, by using
>>> $($(PKG)_...) variables instead of $(BAREBOX_2_...). That's what I tried to show
>>> in my first reply:
>>
>> Off course, silly me... I've been making use of this since forever. It works
>> because of the eval in $(eval $(kconfig-package)). I'll do it this way.
>>  
>>> define BAREBOX_BUILD_CMDS
>>> 	$($(PKG)_BUILD_BAREBOXENV_CMDS)
>>> 	$(TARGET_MAKE_ENV) $(MAKE) $(BAREBOX_MAKE_FLAGS) -C $(@D)
>>> 	$($(PKG)_BUILD_CUSTOM_ENV)
>>> endef
>>> BAREBOX_2_BUILD_CMDS = $(BAREBOX_BUILD_CMDS)
>>>
>>> BAREBOX_2_BUILD_BAREBOXENV_CMDS and BAREBOX_2_BUILD_CUSTOM_ENV will not be set,
>>> so those parts are removed. The rest should be identical for barebox-2, but if
>>> you do need something else you can add something like $($(PKG)_EXTRA_FLAGS).
>>
>> I agree with not needing the additional BAREBOX_2_BUILD_BAREBOXENV_CMDS and
>> BAREBOX_2_INSTALL_BAREBOXENV_CMDS (why would you need to install bareboxenv to
>> the rootfs twice), but I would like to keep the BAREBOX_2_BUILD_CUSTOM_ENV and
>> the built-in variant in Yegor's pending patch-set. They allow customization of
>> the barebox environment, and therefore the boot behavior.
> 
> I am having some trouble with this. I am not able to handle ifdef-space
> diversity in this way. Ifdef-space diversity is used to determine how barebox
> should be configured, whether / how the barebox environment should be built,
> and to print user-friendly config errors. The ifdef logic is not all trivial
> (almost half of the makefile logic), so I would like to avoid duplicating it
> between barebox and barebox-2. The only way I know of to avoid this duplication
> is by extracting the logic info a definition and using $(eval), which is
> exactly what you want to avoid.

 Ah yes, I didn't realize that. Indeed, for those things there is no way to
handle them with $(PKG).

 Actually I would like those things to move to kconfig-package, but that would
be dragging things a bit too far for this series.

 So yes, your idea of $(call barebox-package) looks good. One small remark that
you can already fix before submitting: in the patch that adds the
barebox-package function, say explicitly in the commit message if anything has
changed except for $ -> $$ and BAREBOX -> $(1). That'll make review easier.

 Regards,
 Arnout

> 
> Also, for two of the ifdef-space diversity sections, $(PKG) seems to be
> undefined at the time of evaluation. Getting to the bottom of this is proving
> quite taxing. I can get around this by doing an `$(eval $(call ...,BAREBOX))`,
> which looks a lot like my initial suggestion.
> 
> I am getting to the point where I am just going to duplicate the ifdef sections
> and leave the consistency burden with future reviewers. I understand your
> concern that some developers do not understanding $(eval) all that well, but
> this is like trying to solve the problem with my shoelaces tied.
> 
> [snip]
>  
>>>  However, this is just my opinion, other developers may see it differently,
>>> hence the CC.
>>
>> Off course. Your opinion is held in rather high regard, so I would like to have
>> at least one of the regular barebox developers on board. ;-)
> 
> Is there anyone else we can prod to weigh in on this? Please have a look at the
> templated proposal and confirm your opinion on $(eval):
> https://github.com/smipi1/bbb_buildroot/tree/barebox_2nd_config_build-v4-templated.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> - Pieter
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-06 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-20 22:43 [Buildroot] [v3, 0/4] Supporting building a second Barebox config Pieter Smith
2016-01-20 22:43 ` [Buildroot] [v3, 1/4] barebox: prepare for secondary config build Pieter Smith
2016-02-22 11:03   ` Yegor Yefremov
2016-02-26 23:17   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-02-28  8:12     ` Pieter Smith
2016-02-29  7:47       ` Pieter Smith
2016-03-01 23:08         ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-02  7:50           ` Pieter Smith
2016-03-02 18:12             ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-02 21:32               ` Pieter Smith
2016-03-05 13:16                 ` Pieter Smith
2016-03-06 21:16                   ` Arnout Vandecappelle [this message]
2016-03-07 18:31                     ` Pieter Smith
2016-02-29  7:57     ` Pieter Smith
2016-01-20 22:43 ` [Buildroot] [v3, 2/4] barebox: adds option to build secondary config Pieter Smith
2016-02-22 11:03   ` Yegor Yefremov
2016-02-26 23:26   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-02-29  8:01     ` Pieter Smith
2016-01-20 22:43 ` [Buildroot] [v3, 3/4] barebox: user selection of build output images Pieter Smith
2016-02-22 11:03   ` Yegor Yefremov
2016-02-26 23:43   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-02-29  8:38     ` Pieter Smith
2016-03-01 23:14       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-02  7:54         ` Pieter Smith
2016-03-02 18:18           ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-02 21:40             ` Pieter Smith
2016-03-06 23:03               ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-01-20 22:43 ` [Buildroot] [v3, 4/4] beaglebone: adds barebox bootloader defconfig Pieter Smith
2016-02-22 11:04   ` Yegor Yefremov
2016-02-26 23:47   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-02-26 23:48     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-02-29  8:44     ` Pieter Smith
2016-03-01 23:15       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-02  7:55         ` Pieter Smith
2016-02-16 11:55 ` [Buildroot] [v3, 0/4] Supporting building a second Barebox config Yegor Yefremov
2016-02-16 18:55   ` Pieter Smith
2016-02-16 21:27     ` Yegor Yefremov
2016-02-21 17:25       ` Pieter Smith

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