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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Gregor Boirie <gregor.boirie@parrot.com>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, Hartmut Knaack <knaack.h@gmx.de>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	Peter Meerwald <pmeerw@pmeerw.net>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] iio:iio-interrupt-trigger: device-tree support
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 12:08:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56E406D0.5090902@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160222190521.GA30054@rob-hp-laptop>

On 22/02/16 19:05, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 07:55:24PM +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>> On 19/02/16 19:18, Gregor Boirie wrote:
>>> From: Grégor Boirie <gregor.boirie@parrot.com>
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Gregor Boirie <gregor.boirie@parrot.com>
>> Snag here is that iio_interrupt_trigger is a very linux specific
>> name and device tree bindings should be just about the hardware.
>>
>> Not entirely sure how we avoid this though as the use is rather
>> hard to describe generically.
>>
>> cc'd device tree list and bindings maintainers.
>>
>> As a brief summary - this IIO trigger driver takes a generic
>> interrupt (from whatever) and uses it to drive sampling of IIO devices.
>> The interrupt might be associated with particularly simple sensors directly
>> but is more commonly a gpio interrupt line used cause samples to be captured
>> from unrelated devices.  Sometimes the source of that interrupt can be a convoluted
>> external mux setup over which linux has no control for example.
> 
> If linux has no control of the setup, then do we care? It's just some 
> blackbox driving a signal.
> 
>> Any suggestions on appropriate naming?
> 
> I would think of it outside of IIO perhaps. We already have gpio-keys 
> which is kind of similar. Maybe just "external interrupt"? Is it always 
> a GPIO interrupt or could be polled GPIO or some other mechanism?

The challenge is that we need to be able to capture it's use.
> 
> Could you add "trigger-gpios" to every device that uses it and allow for 
> it to appear multiple times? It somewhat depends on how static setting 
> the trigger source is whether that would be appropriate.
Right now we don't have a device - the interrupt trigger is only soft
associated (via sysfs) with it's users at a later date.

I think we just have 'make up a device' for this to represent the use case
so we can probe the interrupt trigger driver in iio.

sensor sampling trigger perhaps?

> 
>> We aren't really describing hardware here, rather a policy decision on what
>> a given interrupt is to be used for.
>>
>> I suppose ultimately we could take the view this should be handled via another
>> route (from userspace via an appropriate configfs interface for example).
> 
> You would still need to know which GPIOs you could use or assign, so I 
> think we need something in DT.
Absolutely. Short of allowing completely generic grabbing from a configfs call
of an interrupt, definitely need to specify which interrupts are suitable for
use like this. 

I think a 'fictional' device is going to have to exist to allow this..

Jonathan



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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Gregor Boirie
	<gregor.boirie-ITF29qwbsa/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-iio-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Hartmut Knaack <knaack.h-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars-Qo5EllUWu/uELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>,
	Peter Meerwald <pmeerw-jW+XmwGofnusTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>,
	"devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Ian Campbell
	<ijc+devicetree-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org>,
	Kumar Gala <galak-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] iio:iio-interrupt-trigger: device-tree support
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 12:08:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56E406D0.5090902@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160222190521.GA30054@rob-hp-laptop>

On 22/02/16 19:05, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 07:55:24PM +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>> On 19/02/16 19:18, Gregor Boirie wrote:
>>> From: Grégor Boirie <gregor.boirie-ITF29qwbsa/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Gregor Boirie <gregor.boirie-ITF29qwbsa/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>> Snag here is that iio_interrupt_trigger is a very linux specific
>> name and device tree bindings should be just about the hardware.
>>
>> Not entirely sure how we avoid this though as the use is rather
>> hard to describe generically.
>>
>> cc'd device tree list and bindings maintainers.
>>
>> As a brief summary - this IIO trigger driver takes a generic
>> interrupt (from whatever) and uses it to drive sampling of IIO devices.
>> The interrupt might be associated with particularly simple sensors directly
>> but is more commonly a gpio interrupt line used cause samples to be captured
>> from unrelated devices.  Sometimes the source of that interrupt can be a convoluted
>> external mux setup over which linux has no control for example.
> 
> If linux has no control of the setup, then do we care? It's just some 
> blackbox driving a signal.
> 
>> Any suggestions on appropriate naming?
> 
> I would think of it outside of IIO perhaps. We already have gpio-keys 
> which is kind of similar. Maybe just "external interrupt"? Is it always 
> a GPIO interrupt or could be polled GPIO or some other mechanism?

The challenge is that we need to be able to capture it's use.
> 
> Could you add "trigger-gpios" to every device that uses it and allow for 
> it to appear multiple times? It somewhat depends on how static setting 
> the trigger source is whether that would be appropriate.
Right now we don't have a device - the interrupt trigger is only soft
associated (via sysfs) with it's users at a later date.

I think we just have 'make up a device' for this to represent the use case
so we can probe the interrupt trigger driver in iio.

sensor sampling trigger perhaps?

> 
>> We aren't really describing hardware here, rather a policy decision on what
>> a given interrupt is to be used for.
>>
>> I suppose ultimately we could take the view this should be handled via another
>> route (from userspace via an appropriate configfs interface for example).
> 
> You would still need to know which GPIOs you could use or assign, so I 
> think we need something in DT.
Absolutely. Short of allowing completely generic grabbing from a configfs call
of an interrupt, definitely need to specify which interrupts are suitable for
use like this. 

I think a 'fictional' device is going to have to exist to allow this..

Jonathan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-12 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-19 19:18 [PATCH v1 0/2] iio-interrupt-trigger enhancements Gregor Boirie
2016-02-19 19:18 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] iio:iio-interrupt-trigger: device-tree support Gregor Boirie
2016-02-21 19:55   ` Jonathan Cameron
2016-02-21 19:55     ` Jonathan Cameron
2016-02-22 19:05     ` Rob Herring
2016-02-22 19:05       ` Rob Herring
2016-02-23  8:24       ` Gregor Boirie
2016-02-23  8:24         ` Gregor Boirie
2016-03-12 12:08       ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2016-03-12 12:08         ` Jonathan Cameron
2016-02-19 19:18 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] iio:iio-interrupt-trigger: sysfs poll support Gregor Boirie
2016-02-21 20:08   ` Jonathan Cameron
2016-02-22 11:32     ` Gregor Boirie
2016-02-22 11:37       ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-02-22 13:07         ` Gregor Boirie
2016-02-22 13:57           ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-02-22 16:07             ` Gregor Boirie

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