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From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Richard Weinberger <richard-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Cc: linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: New syscall: leftpad()
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 16:36:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56FDB478.4020609@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1459463613-32473-1-git-send-email-richard-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>

Please be more careful in your description...

On 03/31/16 15:33, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Recent happenings in the node.js community showed how fragile software is when
> it comes to dependencies of fundamental algorithms like leftpad[1].
> A node.js package which provided ledpad vanished and broke a lot of software.

                                   leftpad

> This raised our attention and we came to the conclusion that it is the kernel's
> job to provide such functionality such that node.js based applications can in future
> rely in Linux's "don't break userspace" rule.
> We hope that glibc and Andoid's bionic will soon offer wrapper functions for this

                         Android's

> new leftpad system call.
> We put leftpad into the kernel not only because of Linux's stable ABI,
> also for performance reasons.
> As everyone knows, within the kernel everything is faster and better.
> Leftpad has millions of users, so it has to be as fast as possible.
> This new system call will also help making services like left-pad.io[2]
> faster and more reliable. If the leftpad() system call gets adopted by a wider user base
> it might also make sense to add a generic npm() system call which acts like ioctl()
> where kernel modules can register new functions that are often used by node.js.
> Such functions might be, is_array(), is_int(), etc.


-- 
~Randy

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From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
To: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New syscall: leftpad()
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 16:36:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56FDB478.4020609@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1459463613-32473-1-git-send-email-richard@nod.at>

Please be more careful in your description...

On 03/31/16 15:33, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Recent happenings in the node.js community showed how fragile software is when
> it comes to dependencies of fundamental algorithms like leftpad[1].
> A node.js package which provided ledpad vanished and broke a lot of software.

                                   leftpad

> This raised our attention and we came to the conclusion that it is the kernel's
> job to provide such functionality such that node.js based applications can in future
> rely in Linux's "don't break userspace" rule.
> We hope that glibc and Andoid's bionic will soon offer wrapper functions for this

                         Android's

> new leftpad system call.
> We put leftpad into the kernel not only because of Linux's stable ABI,
> also for performance reasons.
> As everyone knows, within the kernel everything is faster and better.
> Leftpad has millions of users, so it has to be as fast as possible.
> This new system call will also help making services like left-pad.io[2]
> faster and more reliable. If the leftpad() system call gets adopted by a wider user base
> it might also make sense to add a generic npm() system call which acts like ioctl()
> where kernel modules can register new functions that are often used by node.js.
> Such functions might be, is_array(), is_int(), etc.


-- 
~Randy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-31 23:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-31 22:33 New syscall: leftpad() Richard Weinberger
2016-03-31 22:33 ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-31 22:33 ` [PATCH] Implement leftpad syscall Richard Weinberger
     [not found]   ` <1459463613-32473-2-git-send-email-richard-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-31 22:46     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-03-31 22:46       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-03-31 23:09     ` Greg KH
2016-03-31 23:09       ` Greg KH
2016-04-01  3:22     ` kbuild test robot
2016-04-01  3:22       ` kbuild test robot
2016-04-01  6:56     ` Richard Cochran
2016-04-01  6:56       ` Richard Cochran
2016-04-01  1:33   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-04-01  7:14   ` Scotty Bauer
2016-03-31 22:33 ` [PATCH] leftpad.2: Document new syscall Richard Weinberger
     [not found]   ` <1459463613-32473-3-git-send-email-richard-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-08 18:10     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2016-04-08 18:10       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2016-04-09 14:12       ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found] ` <1459463613-32473-1-git-send-email-richard-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-31 23:36   ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2016-03-31 23:36     ` New syscall: leftpad() Randy Dunlap
     [not found]     ` <56FDB478.4020609-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-01  8:06       ` Richard Weinberger
2016-04-01  8:06         ` Richard Weinberger

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