From: Cole Robinson <crobinso@redhat.com>
To: libvirt-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Cc: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>,
Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
mik@miknet.net, jjaburek@redhat.com, hkario@redhat.com,
sgrubb@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: virtio-rng and /dev/urandom
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 18:21:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <571800E4.4040207@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5710C55E.3030000@redhat.com>
On 04/15/2016 06:41 AM, Cole Robinson wrote:
> Libvirt currently rejects using host /dev/urandom as an input source for a
> virtio-rng device. The only accepted sources are /dev/random and /dev/hwrng.
> This is the result of discussions on qemu-devel around when the feature was
> first added (2013). Examples:
>
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2012-09/msg02387.html
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2013-03/threads.html#00023
>
> libvirt's rejection of /dev/urandom has generated some complaints from users:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1074464
> * cited: http://www.2uo.de/myths-about-urandom/
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2016-March/msg01062.html
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2016-April/msg00186.html
>
> I think it's worth having another discussion about this, at least with a
> recent argument in one place so we can put it to bed. I'm CCing a bunch of
> people. I think the questions are:
>
> 1) is the original recommendation to never use virtio-rng+/dev/urandom correct?
>
> 2) regardless of #1, should we continue to reject that config in libvirt?
>
Even though there's still a debate about whether use of /dev/urandom here is
sensible, several people suggested removing the libvirt path restriction, and
nobody really spoke up to defend it. So I've posted a patch to fully drop
libvirt's rng path whitelist:
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2016-April/msg01362.html
- Cole
prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-20 22:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-15 10:41 [Qemu-devel] RFC: virtio-rng and /dev/urandom Cole Robinson
2016-04-15 11:46 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-15 11:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-20 22:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Steve Grubb
2016-04-15 15:47 ` Eric Blake
2016-04-15 16:10 ` Hubert Kario
2016-04-16 0:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-16 0:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-16 8:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-18 0:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18 0:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18 11:21 ` Hubert Kario
2016-04-18 11:00 ` Hubert Kario
2016-04-19 11:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Yaniv Kaul
2016-04-15 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-15 16:06 ` Hubert Kario
2016-04-18 9:28 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-04-18 9:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18 11:07 ` Hubert Kario
2016-04-18 11:26 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-04-18 21:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-20 22:21 ` Cole Robinson [this message]
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