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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Pratyush Anand <panand@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Geoff Levand <geoff@infradead.org>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 3/4] arm64: Add arm64 kexec support
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:59:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57925EFC.20205@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160722135630.GC14911@localhost.localdomain>

On 22/07/16 14:56, Pratyush Anand wrote:
> Hi Robin,
> 
> On 22/07/2016:11:03:14 AM, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> On 22/07/16 05:08, Pratyush Anand wrote:
>>> On 21/07/2016:02:49:36 PM, Geoff Levand wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2016-07-21 at 11:50 +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
>>>>> The Exynos UART (drivers/tty/serial/samsung.c) is one which comes to
>>>>> mind as definitely existing, and on arm64 systems to boot. The TX
>>>>> register is at offset 0x20 there.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what I came up with.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +	struct data {const char *name; int tx_offset;};
>>>> +	static const struct data ok_list[] = {
>>>> +	/*	{"armada-3700-uart", ?},	*/
>>>> +		{"exynos4210-uart", 0x20},
>>>> +	/*	{"ls1021a-lpuart", ?},		*/
>>>> +	/*	{"meson-uart", ?},		*/
>>>> +	/*	{"mt6577-uart", ?},		*/
>>>> +		{"ns16550", 0},
>>>> +		{"ns16550a", 0},
>>>> +		{"pl011", 0},
>>>> +		{NULL, 0}
>>>> +	};
>>>
>>> sinc functionality is just to debug the scenario when something goes wrong in
>>> purgatory. IMHO, it should be disabled by default. So, why not to keep it as
>>> simple as possible. Its a low level debugging mainly for developer, so user
>>> should know the absolute address. Therefore, I think no need to parse earlycon
>>> or earlyprintk from command line.  Whatever user passes in --port can be treated
>>> as address of TX register. If TX offset is 0x20, then user can pass --port as
>>> base+0x20. Additionally, we can pass TX register width as well. So what about
>>> something like "--port=0x1c020000,1" where 0x1c020000 is TX register address and
>>> 1 says about it's width in bytes.
>>
>> I don't think even that is worthwhile, since without any polling it
>> still relies on the UART having FIFOs, someone having already enabled
>> the FIFOs, the FIFOs being deep enough and/or the output being short
>> enough. In short, it's fragile enough that I'm not convinced it's even
>> useful as a debug option. I suggest we simply copy the purgatory console
>> implementation from, say, ARM or Alpha.
> 
> May be I am missing, but deep TX FIFO should not be an issue. Whatever, we write
> in TX register, that will go to the port eventually. However, I do agree that

"Deep" is an issue when in the sense of "not %s enough" ;)

(of which "disabled" is also really just a special case of depth=1)

> short FIFO could be an issue and overflow is quite possible in that case. I had
> been trying to convince Geoff to take [1], which will help to resolve it.

That would make things more useful, yes. As above it would also want
extending to specify the MMIO access size, so for completeness I guess
we'd end up with something like:

--console-tx=<addr>[,{8|16|16be|32|32be}]
--console-status=<addr>,<mask>[,{8|16|16be|32|32be}]

which, other than probably needing some inline asm to guarantee the
appropriate accesses, seems like it could be shared across other
architectures too. Or more bother than it's worth; I can't really decide.

Robin.

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From: robin.murphy@arm.com (Robin Murphy)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v1 3/4] arm64: Add arm64 kexec support
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:59:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57925EFC.20205@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160722135630.GC14911@localhost.localdomain>

On 22/07/16 14:56, Pratyush Anand wrote:
> Hi Robin,
> 
> On 22/07/2016:11:03:14 AM, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> On 22/07/16 05:08, Pratyush Anand wrote:
>>> On 21/07/2016:02:49:36 PM, Geoff Levand wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2016-07-21 at 11:50 +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
>>>>> The Exynos UART (drivers/tty/serial/samsung.c) is one which comes to
>>>>> mind as definitely existing, and on arm64 systems to boot. The TX
>>>>> register is at offset 0x20 there.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what I came up with.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +	struct data {const char *name; int tx_offset;};
>>>> +	static const struct data ok_list[] = {
>>>> +	/*	{"armada-3700-uart", ?},	*/
>>>> +		{"exynos4210-uart", 0x20},
>>>> +	/*	{"ls1021a-lpuart", ?},		*/
>>>> +	/*	{"meson-uart", ?},		*/
>>>> +	/*	{"mt6577-uart", ?},		*/
>>>> +		{"ns16550", 0},
>>>> +		{"ns16550a", 0},
>>>> +		{"pl011", 0},
>>>> +		{NULL, 0}
>>>> +	};
>>>
>>> sinc functionality is just to debug the scenario when something goes wrong in
>>> purgatory. IMHO, it should be disabled by default. So, why not to keep it as
>>> simple as possible. Its a low level debugging mainly for developer, so user
>>> should know the absolute address. Therefore, I think no need to parse earlycon
>>> or earlyprintk from command line.  Whatever user passes in --port can be treated
>>> as address of TX register. If TX offset is 0x20, then user can pass --port as
>>> base+0x20. Additionally, we can pass TX register width as well. So what about
>>> something like "--port=0x1c020000,1" where 0x1c020000 is TX register address and
>>> 1 says about it's width in bytes.
>>
>> I don't think even that is worthwhile, since without any polling it
>> still relies on the UART having FIFOs, someone having already enabled
>> the FIFOs, the FIFOs being deep enough and/or the output being short
>> enough. In short, it's fragile enough that I'm not convinced it's even
>> useful as a debug option. I suggest we simply copy the purgatory console
>> implementation from, say, ARM or Alpha.
> 
> May be I am missing, but deep TX FIFO should not be an issue. Whatever, we write
> in TX register, that will go to the port eventually. However, I do agree that

"Deep" is an issue when in the sense of "not %s enough" ;)

(of which "disabled" is also really just a special case of depth=1)

> short FIFO could be an issue and overflow is quite possible in that case. I had
> been trying to convince Geoff to take [1], which will help to resolve it.

That would make things more useful, yes. As above it would also want
extending to specify the MMIO access size, so for completeness I guess
we'd end up with something like:

--console-tx=<addr>[,{8|16|16be|32|32be}]
--console-status=<addr>,<mask>[,{8|16|16be|32|32be}]

which, other than probably needing some inline asm to guarantee the
appropriate accesses, seems like it could be shared across other
architectures too. Or more bother than it's worth; I can't really decide.

Robin.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-22 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-19 23:28 [PATCH v1 0/4] arm64 kexec-tools patches Geoff Levand
2016-07-19 23:28 ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-19 23:28 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] arm64: Add arm64 kexec support Geoff Levand
2016-07-19 23:28   ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-20 15:39   ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-20 15:39     ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-20 19:19     ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-20 19:19       ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-21 10:31       ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-21 10:31         ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-21 10:50         ` Robin Murphy
2016-07-21 10:50           ` Robin Murphy
2016-07-21 21:49           ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-21 21:49             ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-22  4:08             ` Pratyush Anand
2016-07-22  4:08               ` Pratyush Anand
2016-07-22  5:33               ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-22  5:33                 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-22  9:54               ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-22  9:54                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-22 10:03               ` Robin Murphy
2016-07-22 10:03                 ` Robin Murphy
2016-07-22 13:56                 ` Pratyush Anand
2016-07-22 13:56                   ` Pratyush Anand
2016-07-22 17:59                   ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2016-07-22 17:59                     ` Robin Murphy
2016-07-25 21:56                 ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-25 21:56                   ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-20 17:53   ` Pratyush Anand
2016-07-20 17:53     ` Pratyush Anand
2016-07-20 20:33     ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-20 20:33       ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-20 20:54   ` [PATCH v1.2 " Geoff Levand
2016-07-20 20:54     ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-22  7:12     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-22  7:12       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-26  0:37       ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-26  0:37         ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-25 14:28     ` Ruslan Bilovol
2016-07-25 14:28       ` Ruslan Bilovol
2016-07-25 20:50       ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-25 20:50         ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-26  1:36         ` Ruslan Bilovol
2016-07-26  1:36           ` Ruslan Bilovol
2016-07-26  8:16           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-26  8:16             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-26 21:26             ` Ruslan Bilovol
2016-07-26 21:26               ` Ruslan Bilovol
2016-07-26 21:54               ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-26 21:54                 ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-19 23:28 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] arm64: Add support for binary image files Geoff Levand
2016-07-19 23:28   ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-19 23:28 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] kexec: Add common device tree routines Geoff Levand
2016-07-19 23:28   ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-22  7:19   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-22  7:19     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-27 18:11     ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-27 18:11       ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-19 23:28 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] kexec: (bugfix) calc correct end address of memory ranges in device tree Geoff Levand
2016-07-19 23:28   ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-27 22:45   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-27 22:45     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-27 23:23     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-27 23:23       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-28 23:54       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-28 23:54         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-29  8:27         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-29  8:27           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-29 17:12           ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-29 17:12             ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-29 17:23             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-29 17:23               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-08-01  4:52               ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-08-01  4:52                 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-09-06  0:29                 ` Memory range end be inclusive or exclusive? " AKASHI Takahiro
2016-09-06  0:29                   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-10-31  8:50                   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-10-31  8:50                     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-11-07  8:17                     ` Simon Horman
2016-11-07  8:17                       ` Simon Horman
2016-07-20  4:30 ` [PATCH v1 0/4] arm64 kexec-tools patches AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-20  4:30   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-26 23:05 ` Simon Horman
2016-07-26 23:05   ` Simon Horman
2016-07-27  5:57   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-27  5:57     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-28 18:09   ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-28 18:09     ` Geoff Levand
2016-07-29  0:31     ` Simon Horman
2016-07-29  0:31       ` Simon Horman

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