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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Emese Revfy <re.emese@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Taku Izumi <izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH] mm: Add the ram_latent_entropy kernel parameter
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:39:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57AC9C43.5080106@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160810222805.GA13733@www.outflux.net>

On 08/10/2016 03:28 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> +	if (ram_latent_entropy && !PageHighMem(page) &&
> +		page_to_pfn(page) < 0x100000) {
> +		u64 hash = 0;
> +		size_t index, end = PAGE_SIZE * nr_pages / sizeof(hash);
> +		const u64 *data = lowmem_page_address(page);
> +
> +		for (index = 0; index < end; index++)
> +			hash ^= hash + data[index];
> +		add_device_randomness((const void *)&hash, sizeof(hash));
> +	}

When I was first reading this, I thought it was using the _addresses_ of
the freed memory for entropy.  But it's actually using the _contents_.
The description could probably use a wee bit of sprucing up.

It might also be nice to say in the patch description (and the
Documentation/) what you expect to be in this memory.  It will obviously
be zeros for the vast majority of the space, but I do wonder what else
ends up in there in practice.

Why is it limited to 4GB?  Just so it doesn't go and try to XOR the
contents of a multi-TB system if it got turned on there? :)

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Emese Revfy <re.emese@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Taku Izumi <izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Add the ram_latent_entropy kernel parameter
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:39:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57AC9C43.5080106@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160810222805.GA13733@www.outflux.net>

On 08/10/2016 03:28 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> +	if (ram_latent_entropy && !PageHighMem(page) &&
> +		page_to_pfn(page) < 0x100000) {
> +		u64 hash = 0;
> +		size_t index, end = PAGE_SIZE * nr_pages / sizeof(hash);
> +		const u64 *data = lowmem_page_address(page);
> +
> +		for (index = 0; index < end; index++)
> +			hash ^= hash + data[index];
> +		add_device_randomness((const void *)&hash, sizeof(hash));
> +	}

When I was first reading this, I thought it was using the _addresses_ of
the freed memory for entropy.  But it's actually using the _contents_.
The description could probably use a wee bit of sprucing up.

It might also be nice to say in the patch description (and the
Documentation/) what you expect to be in this memory.  It will obviously
be zeros for the vast majority of the space, but I do wonder what else
ends up in there in practice.

Why is it limited to 4GB?  Just so it doesn't go and try to XOR the
contents of a multi-TB system if it got turned on there? :)

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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Emese Revfy <re.emese@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Taku Izumi <izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Add the ram_latent_entropy kernel parameter
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:39:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57AC9C43.5080106@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160810222805.GA13733@www.outflux.net>

On 08/10/2016 03:28 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> +	if (ram_latent_entropy && !PageHighMem(page) &&
> +		page_to_pfn(page) < 0x100000) {
> +		u64 hash = 0;
> +		size_t index, end = PAGE_SIZE * nr_pages / sizeof(hash);
> +		const u64 *data = lowmem_page_address(page);
> +
> +		for (index = 0; index < end; index++)
> +			hash ^= hash + data[index];
> +		add_device_randomness((const void *)&hash, sizeof(hash));
> +	}

When I was first reading this, I thought it was using the _addresses_ of
the freed memory for entropy.  But it's actually using the _contents_.
The description could probably use a wee bit of sprucing up.

It might also be nice to say in the patch description (and the
Documentation/) what you expect to be in this memory.  It will obviously
be zeros for the vast majority of the space, but I do wonder what else
ends up in there in practice.

Why is it limited to 4GB?  Just so it doesn't go and try to XOR the
contents of a multi-TB system if it got turned on there? :)

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-11 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-10 22:28 [kernel-hardening] [PATCH] mm: Add the ram_latent_entropy kernel parameter Kees Cook
2016-08-10 22:28 ` Kees Cook
2016-08-10 22:28 ` Kees Cook
2016-08-11 15:39 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2016-08-11 15:39   ` Dave Hansen
2016-08-11 15:39   ` Dave Hansen
2016-08-12  3:52 ` [kernel-hardening] " Balbir Singh
2016-08-12  3:52   ` Balbir Singh
2016-08-12  3:52   ` Balbir Singh

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