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From: Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)"
	<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	socketpair-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	Tetsuo Handa
	<penguin-kernel-JPay3/Yim36HaxMnTkn67Xf5DAMn2ifp@public.gmane.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org>,
	Al Viro <viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
	stable-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] pipe: make pipe user buffer limit checks more precise
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 00:00:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57B38CF7.5080803@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1532b6c4-c618-348c-d36a-9679d5d5a1b4-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On 08/16/2016 10:21 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>> @@ -1132,8 +1136,8 @@ long pipe_fcntl(struct file *file, unsigned int cmd, unsigned long arg)
>>>    			if (!capable(CAP_SYS_RESOURCE) && size > pipe_max_size) {
>>>    				ret = -EPERM;
>>>    				goto out;
>>> -			} else if ((too_many_pipe_buffers_hard(pipe->user) ||
>>> -				too_many_pipe_buffers_soft(pipe->user)) &&
>>> +			} else if ((too_many_pipe_buffers_hard(pipe->user, nr_pages) ||
>>> +				too_many_pipe_buffers_soft(pipe->user, nr_pages)) &&
>>>    				!capable(CAP_SYS_RESOURCE) &&
>>>    				!capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN)) {
>>>    				ret = -EPERM;
>>>
>>
>> Isn't there also a race where two or more concurrent pipe()/fnctl()
>> calls can together push us over the limits before the accounting is done?
>
> I guess there is!
>
>> I think there really ought to be a check after doing the accounting if
>> we really want to be meticulous here.
>
> Let me confirm what I understand from your comment: because of the race,
> then a user could subvert the checks and allocate an arbitrary amount
> of kernel memory for pipes. Right?
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "a check after doing the accounting". Is not the
> only solution here some kind of lock around the check+accounting steps?

Instead of doing atomic_long_read() in the check + atomic_long_add() for
accounting we could do a single speculative atomic_long_add_return() and
then if it goes above the limit we can lower it again with atomic_sub()
when aborting the operation (if it doesn't go above the limit we don't
need to do anything).


Vegard

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From: Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	socketpair@gmail.com,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] pipe: make pipe user buffer limit checks more precise
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 00:00:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57B38CF7.5080803@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1532b6c4-c618-348c-d36a-9679d5d5a1b4@gmail.com>

On 08/16/2016 10:21 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>> @@ -1132,8 +1136,8 @@ long pipe_fcntl(struct file *file, unsigned int cmd, unsigned long arg)
>>>    			if (!capable(CAP_SYS_RESOURCE) && size > pipe_max_size) {
>>>    				ret = -EPERM;
>>>    				goto out;
>>> -			} else if ((too_many_pipe_buffers_hard(pipe->user) ||
>>> -				too_many_pipe_buffers_soft(pipe->user)) &&
>>> +			} else if ((too_many_pipe_buffers_hard(pipe->user, nr_pages) ||
>>> +				too_many_pipe_buffers_soft(pipe->user, nr_pages)) &&
>>>    				!capable(CAP_SYS_RESOURCE) &&
>>>    				!capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN)) {
>>>    				ret = -EPERM;
>>>
>>
>> Isn't there also a race where two or more concurrent pipe()/fnctl()
>> calls can together push us over the limits before the accounting is done?
>
> I guess there is!
>
>> I think there really ought to be a check after doing the accounting if
>> we really want to be meticulous here.
>
> Let me confirm what I understand from your comment: because of the race,
> then a user could subvert the checks and allocate an arbitrary amount
> of kernel memory for pipes. Right?
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "a check after doing the accounting". Is not the
> only solution here some kind of lock around the check+accounting steps?

Instead of doing atomic_long_read() in the check + atomic_long_add() for
accounting we could do a single speculative atomic_long_add_return() and
then if it goes above the limit we can lower it again with atomic_sub()
when aborting the operation (if it doesn't go above the limit we don't
need to do anything).


Vegard

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-16 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-16 11:10 [PATCH 1/2] pipe: check limits only when increasing pipe capacity Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-08-16 11:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] pipe: make pipe user buffer limit checks more precise Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-08-16 12:07   ` Vegard Nossum
2016-08-16 20:21     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]       ` <1532b6c4-c618-348c-d36a-9679d5d5a1b4-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-16 22:00         ` Vegard Nossum [this message]
2016-08-16 22:00           ` Vegard Nossum
     [not found]           ` <57B38CF7.5080803-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-17  8:02             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-08-17  8:02               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-08-17 19:34               ` Vegard Nossum
     [not found]                 ` <57B4BC5B.9050405-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-17 19:41                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-08-17 19:41                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                     ` <55f54f95-f614-179e-db4b-912adf2199bb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-17 19:51                       ` Vegard Nossum
2016-08-17 19:51                         ` Vegard Nossum
     [not found]   ` <db82480c-7956-b89d-1f4e-ba2c94f4067e-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-19  5:07     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-08-19  5:07       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found] ` <86c85cff-7fee-cded-386a-e1d518573dda-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-16 11:55   ` [PATCH 1/2] pipe: check limits only when increasing pipe capacity Vegard Nossum
2016-08-16 11:55     ` Vegard Nossum
2016-08-19  5:07   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-08-19  5:07     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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