Subjects for YP Developer Day at ELCE

Subjects for YP Developer Day at ELCE

[Jeff Osier-Mixon]

Hi all - we are in the planning stages for DevDay at ELCE right now,
particularly the advanced track. This track changes every session,
usually to cover the things we are working on hardest - for example,
in San Diego we covered CROPS, devtool, the latest Toaster features,
and much more.

Whether you are able to attend DevDay or not, we would be grateful to
hear your suggestions for subjects to cover in the advanced track. We
are currently planning talks about CROPS, devtool and the ESDK,
Toaster, wic, smack, security, and a few other things. If you have a
burning desire to hear about something specific, please let us know.

Also, we'd love to see you at DevDay, here's the link:

-- 
Jeff Osier-Mixon - Open Source Community Engineer, Intel Corporation

Re: Subjects for YP Developer Day at ELCE

[Jeff Osier-Mixon]

...aaaand HERE's the link
https://www.yoctoproject.org/yocto-project-developer-day-europe-2016

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Jeff Osier-Mixon <jefro@jefro.net> wrote:
> Hi all - we are in the planning stages for DevDay at ELCE right now,
> particularly the advanced track. This track changes every session,
> usually to cover the things we are working on hardest - for example,
> in San Diego we covered CROPS, devtool, the latest Toaster features,
> and much more.
>
> Whether you are able to attend DevDay or not, we would be grateful to
> hear your suggestions for subjects to cover in the advanced track. We
> are currently planning talks about CROPS, devtool and the ESDK,
> Toaster, wic, smack, security, and a few other things. If you have a
> burning desire to hear about something specific, please let us know.
>
> Also, we'd love to see you at DevDay, here's the link:
>
> --
> Jeff Osier-Mixon - Open Source Community Engineer, Intel Corporation



-- 
Jeff Osier-Mixon - Open Source Community Engineer, Intel Corporation

Re: [yocto] Subjects for YP Developer Day at ELCE

[William Mills]

On 09/09/2016 11:51 AM, Jeff Osier-Mixon wrote:
> Hi all - we are in the planning stages for DevDay at ELCE right now,
> particularly the advanced track. This track changes every session,
> usually to cover the things we are working on hardest - for example,
> in San Diego we covered CROPS, devtool, the latest Toaster features,
> and much more.
>
> Whether you are able to attend DevDay or not, we would be grateful to
> hear your suggestions for subjects to cover in the advanced track. We
> are currently planning talks about CROPS, devtool and the ESDK,
> Toaster, wic, smack, security, and a few other things. If you have a
> burning desire to hear about something specific, please let us know.
>

*** Status and state of the art for read-only root filesystems.
1) r/o root + tmpfs only for ephemeral systems
2) r/o root + select r/w points (bind-volatile?)
3) r/o root + unionfs r/w

My interest would be in #1 & #2 as it is security related.
r/w mount would be nosuid, nodev, etc and perhaps noexec
A survey of the space should include #3 however.

I know there is a section in the developer manual for the basic 
mechanisms of r/o root but it appears a lot is left as an excrice for 
the user.  Are the full demo images etc?

*** What is the OE/YP response to Ubuntu-core?
4) Can Yocto build transactionally updated-able bundles for kernel and 
core-os/root-fs?
5) Can Yocto [cross-]build snaps or flatpaks?
6) Will snapd (or whatever flatpak needs) become 1st class ecosystem 
components?
	Ex: meta-snappy has a lot of good work but is early days
	    Currently meta-snappy disables AppArmor & seccomp
	    snapd does only light ns & cgroup control and relies on
	      AppArmor to do most of the containment
             so snapd w/o AppArmor is a demo
	    [Arch is no better BTW]

Bill

Re: Subjects for YP Developer Day at ELCE

[William Mills]

On 09/09/2016 11:51 AM, Jeff Osier-Mixon wrote:
> Hi all - we are in the planning stages for DevDay at ELCE right now,
> particularly the advanced track. This track changes every session,
> usually to cover the things we are working on hardest - for example,
> in San Diego we covered CROPS, devtool, the latest Toaster features,
> and much more.
>
> Whether you are able to attend DevDay or not, we would be grateful to
> hear your suggestions for subjects to cover in the advanced track. We
> are currently planning talks about CROPS, devtool and the ESDK,
> Toaster, wic, smack, security, and a few other things. If you have a
> burning desire to hear about something specific, please let us know.
>

*** Status and state of the art for read-only root filesystems.
1) r/o root + tmpfs only for ephemeral systems
2) r/o root + select r/w points (bind-volatile?)
3) r/o root + unionfs r/w

My interest would be in #1 & #2 as it is security related.
r/w mount would be nosuid, nodev, etc and perhaps noexec
A survey of the space should include #3 however.

I know there is a section in the developer manual for the basic 
mechanisms of r/o root but it appears a lot is left as an excrice for 
the user.  Are the full demo images etc?

*** What is the OE/YP response to Ubuntu-core?
4) Can Yocto build transactionally updated-able bundles for kernel and 
core-os/root-fs?
5) Can Yocto [cross-]build snaps or flatpaks?
6) Will snapd (or whatever flatpak needs) become 1st class ecosystem 
components?
	Ex: meta-snappy has a lot of good work but is early days
	    Currently meta-snappy disables AppArmor & seccomp
	    snapd does only light ns & cgroup control and relies on
	      AppArmor to do most of the containment
             so snapd w/o AppArmor is a demo
	    [Arch is no better BTW]

Bill

Re: [yocto] Subjects for YP Developer Day at ELCE

[Burton, Ross]

On 12 September 2016 at 15:48, William Mills <wmills@ti.com> wrote:

> 5) Can Yocto [cross-]build snaps or flatpaks?
>

Just because it's interesting, note that the standard freedesktop.org
flatpak runtime is in fact bootstrapped through a custom OE distro.

Ross

Re: [yocto] Subjects for YP Developer Day at ELCE

[Burton, Ross]

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On 12 September 2016 at 15:48, William Mills <wmills@ti.com> wrote:

> 5) Can Yocto [cross-]build snaps or flatpaks?
>

Just because it's interesting, note that the standard freedesktop.org
flatpak runtime is in fact bootstrapped through a custom OE distro.

Ross

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Re: Subjects for YP Developer Day at ELCE

[Burton, Ross]

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On 12 September 2016 at 15:48, William Mills <wmills@ti.com> wrote:

> 5) Can Yocto [cross-]build snaps or flatpaks?
>

Just because it's interesting, note that the standard freedesktop.org
flatpak runtime is in fact bootstrapped through a custom OE distro.

Ross

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